Ultimate Combat Shotgun

You're right, Red. The Saiga deserves a look. But just because the AK series has won a well deserved rep as reliable doesn't mean the shotgun should be unreservedly accepted w/o some test. We hear little from the Saiga shotgun owners out there in Shotgunland. Maybe they're shy, maybe they're not fond of increasing the demand for these, maybe they got took....
 
Dave, very well put,
I am new to shotguns and firearms in general,
I purchased a 19" saiga 12 about a month ago and and have not had the chance to shoot it yet, but will do so this Fri.
I,ve done a lot of research before I bought, and everthing I read pointed to the saiga12 as being versitle, reliable as its brother the AK-series rifles.
ak47.net has posts pretty often on the saiga12.
However with my lack of experience with firearms I wouldnt give much weight as to my opinon,
I guess its just nice to see one of the firearms Ive got spoken of in a forum such as this.
 
Thanks, Red. Please post after shooting to tell us how it went.

A coupla things...

See how recharging the mags go.

Note how heavy the trigger pull is. Except for the Galil, Kalashnikovs have heavy triggers as a rule. Hard to do best work with those.

In theory,the K guns should be reliable, durable, and user friendly. Let us know how it goes.

Thanks...
 
Wow, guys, thanks so much for the advice, I'm getting quite an education here.

I think the first thing I ought to do is shoot as many shotguns as possible and go from there, I've been guilty of buying guns w/o shooting them only to later want to get rid of them. I was at my dealer yesterday and was looking at quite a few shotguns, there really are some nice ones out there.

I am definately partial to autoloaders, being a lazy SOB, and I think I might have found a winner in the Remington 1187. I've heard very good things about it and it does balance very well. If I can only get one with a smaller barrel, about 20 inches or so, I might be in business.
 
I'm not a big shotgun fan as I have no use for one, practical or otherwise, but if you look up the "Mossberg Super-shorty" (I can't remember who makes them, it's some custom job,) they look pretty fun. AFAIK, it only holds 3 shots, but it's like a large pump-action pistol. I think it would certainly have the shorter barrel you're looking for, too. (Though I don't imagine it's that great at long (normal for a shotgun) range.)
 
Glock Glocker, If you like the 1187 give the 1187 Police model a look. One benefit the gas operated auto loaders have is the built in recoil reduction. However the 1187 P models are less than ideal with reduced recoil and light target loads. Mine is sluggish with both. I believe there is a slight difference in the gas system between the 1187P(designed for full power ammo) and the regular 1187 models. Mine functions very well with full power ammo. They come from the factory with 18+ in. barrels ( a 14 in. model is available) and mag extensions, dark parkerized metal and of course those black (read tactical) synthetic stocks. Check the Remington LE website for the different models. Wilson Combat, among others, may have a pimped out model if that appeals. Al in Md.
 
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