I know, I know, there are posters here who feel that any mention of martial arts training is pointless. After all, we have guns, right?
Just thought I'd point out that a narcotics detective buddy of mine was commenting the other day that he has had several dealers pull weapons on him at close range, but that he has not so far fired his own weapon. Without thinking about it, he's instinctively just jammed the guys up and taken their guns away from them.
Please note, I know this guy from the dojo - aikido and ju-jutsu. He's formidable.
Anyway, I mentioned his comments to another friend over the weekend. That friend and I decided to conduct some experiments, from arm's length.
First, he unloaded his SP101, then holstered it. Next, from an arm's length away, he tried to draw, point, and pull. My job was not to let him. We did this from standing, and we also tried it from a seated position, simulating side-by-side in the front seat of a car.
Long story short, over the course of a dozen attempts, he didn't pull the trigger on me once. He did end up with the weapon stuck under his chin nine or ten times. I took it from him every time.
We reversed roles. He didn't have the same luck with me. I "killed" him every time.
The difference? When he tried to draw, I knew to jam him up using all my body weight against his wrist and/or forearm, or to trap him and turn, rotating him around me. OTOH, when I drew, he'd try to overpower my arm using just his own arms (as most people without training will do), so I just stepped back or pivoted out of his grip, using all of my mass against his arm/arms, then "shot" him.
I did the same thing to an Army drill sergeant/weapons instructor last August; we were also playing around with trying to take the M9 out of battery so the attacker couldn't fire. It works well enough, until the attacker fends with the offhand and steps back. Just try to hold the slide out of battery against a retreating, pivoting shooter....
MA training doesn't have to be about knowing how to punch, kick, or grapple somebody into submission. However, knowing how to fend an attacker off could be critical to being able to draw one's own weapon. Knowing how not to get jammed up is very useful. So is knowing how to jam the other guy.
Bear in mind that most of us aren't wearing competition rigs when we CCW; even if we practice clearing the cover garment and then speed-rocking, it will take time. Since it's a mantra in this forum that most attackers will be at close proximity, the conservative assumption is that the BG will be on top of you by the time the weapon clears.
Learn how to move. Learn how to break contact. Learn how to slow him down while you draw.
Later on, you might get fancy and also learn how to disarm, but first you should learn how to just move.
Just thought I'd point out that a narcotics detective buddy of mine was commenting the other day that he has had several dealers pull weapons on him at close range, but that he has not so far fired his own weapon. Without thinking about it, he's instinctively just jammed the guys up and taken their guns away from them.
Please note, I know this guy from the dojo - aikido and ju-jutsu. He's formidable.
Anyway, I mentioned his comments to another friend over the weekend. That friend and I decided to conduct some experiments, from arm's length.
First, he unloaded his SP101, then holstered it. Next, from an arm's length away, he tried to draw, point, and pull. My job was not to let him. We did this from standing, and we also tried it from a seated position, simulating side-by-side in the front seat of a car.
Long story short, over the course of a dozen attempts, he didn't pull the trigger on me once. He did end up with the weapon stuck under his chin nine or ten times. I took it from him every time.
We reversed roles. He didn't have the same luck with me. I "killed" him every time.
The difference? When he tried to draw, I knew to jam him up using all my body weight against his wrist and/or forearm, or to trap him and turn, rotating him around me. OTOH, when I drew, he'd try to overpower my arm using just his own arms (as most people without training will do), so I just stepped back or pivoted out of his grip, using all of my mass against his arm/arms, then "shot" him.
I did the same thing to an Army drill sergeant/weapons instructor last August; we were also playing around with trying to take the M9 out of battery so the attacker couldn't fire. It works well enough, until the attacker fends with the offhand and steps back. Just try to hold the slide out of battery against a retreating, pivoting shooter....
MA training doesn't have to be about knowing how to punch, kick, or grapple somebody into submission. However, knowing how to fend an attacker off could be critical to being able to draw one's own weapon. Knowing how not to get jammed up is very useful. So is knowing how to jam the other guy.
Bear in mind that most of us aren't wearing competition rigs when we CCW; even if we practice clearing the cover garment and then speed-rocking, it will take time. Since it's a mantra in this forum that most attackers will be at close proximity, the conservative assumption is that the BG will be on top of you by the time the weapon clears.
Learn how to move. Learn how to break contact. Learn how to slow him down while you draw.
Later on, you might get fancy and also learn how to disarm, but first you should learn how to just move.
Spoken like a true ignoramous!!! 
