THIS is how stupid people can be in a home invasion...

The homeowner in the original post must need periodic reminders to inhale. He is pre-limbic stupid.

And, sheesh, for anyone getting all hackly-n-everthang over ZeSpectre, the fellow offered a sound, prudent suggestion in reply to one rather ill-advised post.

By the grace of God, I don't know firsthand, but I have no doubt my musings on internet boards would be of intense interest to a plaintiff's lawyer. "Hmmm, did this illegitimus have a predisposition for shooting down poor, misunderstood yutes?"
 
avoid the entire legal/law enforcement process. train yourself in the art of dead body disposal. get some pigs and keep um hungry!
 
Joab, would the magnet thing actually work?!

Seriously though, any non-specific info/ guidance/ advice you could share relating to "comments made in an open forum can bite you in the butt" would be most appreciated. We're all hear to learn how best to protect ourselves, after all.... including legally.

Thanks!
 
Joab, would the magnet thing actually work?!
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No clue
I thought it was a CSI reference as a way of pointing out that we should be concerned about what we say in netland being used against us, I am

any non-specific info/ guidance/ advice you could share relating to "comments made in an open forum can bite you in the butt" would be most appreciated.
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Comments I have made regarding a particular incident have been repeated to me by people I have not shared those comments with in person and who are not to my knowledge members of the particular forum
Assets I have spoken of are now verifiable and are being used against me
I made the mistake of mentioning my screen name to a neighbor kid who happens to be the cousin of someone I would not have shared that info with

Others I know have been able to figure out who I am by my screen name, location, or me specific things I have said

As a side note
According to one of my wife's Christian Viet cousins my screen name here means "kills many people"
What are the chances that a prosecutor would run with that

Just as an exercise once I decided to google some info on an ex girlfriend that I had not seen in about twenty years, here is what I found in about 30 minutes on with no help or money involved

She has been married three times
She had a substance abuse problem
Her last husband cheated on her with a younger girl
Her current relationship beat her up,
The court did not grant her support because
According to court records her new baby isn't his

She also has four traffic tickets and has had five addresses in the past seven years and is a Motley Crue fanatic,a stripper/hairdresser, was extremely naughty in the late 80's ( too bad we broke up in the early 80's probably because she wasn't) and wants to move to LA

I also know her present address (verified) and her baby's name her car make, year color and even plate number(verified)

There is much more that I found out but can not remember it all and it would be boring

If I can find all that with no real computer/stalker ability what do you think a determined stalker/PI could find
 
Yeah that was dumb of the guy. Totally clueless. MOST PEOPLE ARE CLUELESS.

I'd grab my 12ga, let 'em kick the door in, then shoot 'em.
 
Reminds me of something that happened in a suburb in Orange County, CA a couple of years ago where I used to live. Some kid goes nuts and drives over to his girlfriend's house and shoots her with a 12ga, then runs around the neighborhood shooting at people. Note, this is a quiet, upper middle class suburban area. Not a lot of people on the streets to shoot at so mostly he's blasting his gun toward the houses. Some homeowner actually comes out of his house and yells at the kid to stop it. Kid shoots and kills the guy.

Incredible.
 
Re: magnet

No magnet you have on hand is going to be strong enough to wipe your computer. There are impressively strong magnets INSIDE the hard drives of your computer that are used in the mechanism for moving the drive heads around and they don't erase anything.

It's both easy and tough to keep the privacy of your computer. For a regular non-technical person it is tough. Against clever investigators it is tough.

Some things can be helpful. Firefox web browser has a hot-key Ctrl-Shift-Del to "clear private data". How cleared? Hard to say. It might just delete the cache files (which might be later undeleted successfully). Against a clever investigator that doesn't go far. Against run-of-the-mill, you probably are pretty successful.

But let's be honest. You've got a bookmark for TFL right? Someone would notice that. If you're a bit more clever, you use an encrypted filesystem/drive to hold your browser data. That would probably even keep out the clever investigator. But then they just subpoena for your password to unlock it; and you can't take the 5th.

But I said it is easy. It can be easy. You can boot with one of those bootable Linux CDs and browse from it without saving anything on your hard drive. But you give up convenience. One, you have to boot with your CD when you want to use it instead of just using your computer. You don't have any cache from the last time, so pages don't load as fast, etc. Easy but inconvenient.

Personally, I value my privacy and use some encryption, but if push came to shove I don't have too many delusions that I'd be doing anything other than unencrypting that browser cache or sitting in a cell under contempt.

Anyway, it isn't exactly firearm related and this whole discussion feels creepily similar to planning a crime so it's probably time to stop.
 
To answer a specific point brought up in the thread a couple of times......but what if it is a "friend" kicking in your door at 2:00 AM because he "stayed too late at a bar?"

Well, call 911.

Any "friend" who gets so freakin' drunk that he winds up on your doorstep, kicking on the door at 2:00 am is an idiot who really needs to spend a night in the drunk tank.

Heck, calling 911 on him just might be his much-needed wake-up call that getting publically tanked and walking around at 2:00 am and kicking on doors is really really stupid, and possibly a sign of having a serious alcohol problem.

possum
 
Here's what freaks me out: Any home breaker-inners can just shout "OPEN UP! POLICE!" as they're kicking in the door and it makes it real tough for a guy to shoot 'em. If they have weapons and you're standing there and have to pause to make sure they're not really cops, then you're at a serious disadvantage.

Which is why IMHO: if I lived out in the boonies (right now I'm in a small apt in the city surrounded by neighbors who hear everything), I would get some shatterproof windows and some dense, hard-ass doors and locks and outside lights and cameras. And dogs. Because all that would at least give me some time to look at the monitor and see if it's really the cops who are kicking in the door and beating at the windows. Not perfect but I think necessary for anybody who doesn't have neighbors close enough to hear what's going on.
 
Dogs and Doorknockers

"I'm more and more convinced that a big homicidal dog is the answer to the home invasion thing."

Well said Hallucinator.

Even a small YIPPEE dog is better than NONE. My Jack Russell can hear a mouse fart from a mile away.



As for legitimate Law Enforcement kicking in your door, they're only going to do that after they've already knocked and tried other methods- UNLESS you are a convicted felon, and they are serving a High Risk warrant on you. In such a case, you'll probably know you are wanted, and you're up the creek anyway. While there are a tiny number of cases, where raids were carried out on the wrong address (in one case a woman's home was raided erroneously something like 7 TIMES!!!) the majority of the time if someone is kicking their way into your home, you better go to the SIDE WINDOW with your chambered weapon in your hand, to see who it is. If you don't have a side window-apartment dwellers- check the peep-hole.

A quick 9-1-1 call, covers your butt for sure.
 
As for legitimate Law Enforcement kicking in your door, they're only going to do that after they've already knocked and tried other methods- UNLESS you are a convicted felon
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Or they have the wrong house.
 
"Or they have the wrong house."

This brings up a good point. Does anyone know of any case law about innocent home owners responding to 'angry masked men' breaking down their doors?

Since I'm not a lawbreaker, my first guess was that it was a home invasion.

(Dark of the night. Being startled. Insignia not readily discernable.)
 
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