This guy's really following the Adolf Hitler playbook closely...

[old 12 gauge]

As always the subject went to Venezuela in South America to the Middle East and we shouldn't be worried about either.. We should be worried about when the final straw will come down on us right here in America. we have more Gun laws, Auto laws, building laws, zoning laws, Dept of health laws, dept of labor laws, DEC laws,medical laws, and more laws against everything else than any country on the planet. We have different police depts. holding road blocks all over the country cking stickers,tires ect. and seat belts just to raise money, it can't be for safety because all they would have to do is make it so the auto wouldn't start if the belt wasn't hooked.
I think we're in big trouble right here and the people that we've elected have sold us out, everyone running for office promises to pass more laws and bills and hire more cops soon as they are elected. we're so well protected that soon our neighbors will be watching every move we makeJMOP

 

[threegun]

(1)Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

Prior to 9-11 just what attacks is Osama talking about.....helping Kuwait? Just an excuse.

You attacked us in Palestine:

(i) Palestine, which has sunk under military occupation for more than 80 years. The British handed over Palestine, with your help and your support, to the Jews, who have occupied it for more than 50 years; years overflowing with oppression, tyranny, crimes, killing, expulsion, destruction and devastation. The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals. And of course there is no need to explain and prove the degree of American support for Israel. The creation of Israel is a crime which must be erased. Each and every person whose hands have become polluted in the contribution towards this crime must pay its*price, and pay for it heavily

So for the past 50 years of helping Israel we are to die yet Osama gladly accepted our help in his fight against the Soviet Union. On one hand we must pay for Palestine yet he did nothing about our helping Israel until recently. As I said this is an excuse.

You steal our wealth and oil at paltry prices because of you international influence and military threats. This theft is indeed the biggest theft ever witnessed by mankind in the history of the world.

We get a mere 19percent of our oil from the middle east. Many other nations get oil from that region at "paltry" prices yet only the U.S. is to be blamed for this. Again simply an excuse.

You have starved the Muslims of Iraq, where children die every day. It is a wonder that more than 1.5 million Iraqi children have died as a result of your sanctions, and you did not show concern. Yet when 3000 of your people died, the entire world rises and has not yet sat down.

"Did the Oil-for-Food program accomplish its mission?
Yes. The mission of the Oil-for-Food program was to address the humanitarian impact of sanctions on the Iraq’s citizens, while maintaining their efficacy, which kept the Hussein regime from acquiring weapons of mass destruction. Under the program, enough food was imported to feed all 27 million Iraqis and the average daily caloric intake of the people of Iraq was increased 83 percent, from 1,200 kilocalories to 2,200 kilocalories per person per day. In addition, malnutrition rates in 2002 in the central and southern part of the country were half those in 1996 among children under the age of five; in the three northern governorates, chronic malnutrition decreased 56 percent. The program also contributed to national vaccination campaigns that helped reduce child mortality and eradicated polio in Iraq since May 29, 2003."

Again no starving people in Iraq due to the U.S. but a mighty fine excuse to those who don't know the truth. BTW the people in Iraq may have been starved but not due to the U.S. or our santions.

Now lets look at their book the Koran.

"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)

"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)

"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)

They must make war against non believers and unless you are muslim that includes you. One thing is for sure no matter what we do they will try to kill us because we just don't believe. They may try to fool, confuse, and divide us with excuses but the truth is in their book.

 

[Master Blaster]

The question is, does the US have the will to fight that war?
When we are fighting a rather small war in Iraq and have a large amount of the people against it. Many of those people claim that few thousand dead soldiers are too many. What will they say if a larger war demands the deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of soldiers? This lack of will is what could make it difficult to push any major campaign forward on a global scale.

Just wait till Osama and his friends kill a few hundred thousand liberals in NYC, Or Chicago, or Los Angeles, with a nuclear, radiologic, or biological attack.

There is no fury like that of a peacenick liberal who's been mugged.

 

[Crosshair]

threegun

Looking at my post, the way I wrote it made it look like I think that it is mainly OUR fault for them attacking us and that is not what I think. Yes Islam is and always was a violent religion bent on ruling the world, but you have to admit that our meddling in their politics have helped make us the target of choice. Many of our actions have backfired on us; Iran, Saddam, us supporting Osama, etc.

 

[applesanity]

Bush is Hitler, Chavez is Hitler, everyone's Hitler.

Hitler was a master of propaganda. Goebbels? No. Chavez is so far away from Hitler.

Yeah, I know. A nearly 60-year-old rifle design.

Cutting edge to say the least.

Many TFL members are big fans of the m1911.

Firearms are a mature technology. Nothing super radical or revolutionary is ever going to happen, except for maybe caseless ammo. The only things that will really happen are just minor improvements of diminishing returns - better quality control, mettalurgy, powder mixing, or precision machining.

This is all academic, though. You'd be hard-pressed to find people who don't respect the AK-47. You don't have to like it, but it deserves all your respect.

Osama Bin Laden, the leader of the islamo fascists, would know, wouldn't he? Here are the reasons he gives:

Yo - chill out. Everytime some one uses that rush limbaugh/ hannity buzzword, "islamo fascists," i can't help but laugh.

Do real, independent research, or fact-check the information you're given. Don't regurgitate the stuff on afternoon radio.

Osama Bin Laden is not the leader of the "islamo fascists."

If one says that phrase again a few times, it gets more desensitizing, and more funny.

"Islamo Fascists."

 

[threegun]

Fascism;

"Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."[12]

"1. a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond reach of traditional solutions; 2. belief one’s group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits; 3. need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts; 4. right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint; 5. fear of foreign `contamination."[

I guess Rush, Hannity, and Michael Savage did their research because the definition sure fits Osama Bin laden. Yes he is the leader of that movement. A great buzzword I might add.

 

[Caimlas]

Chavez is trying to emulate his hero, Fidel Castro, not Hitler.

Yep.

Problem: Castro was trying to implement a Stalinist state in Cuba. Stalin killed a fair number of people for the hell of it in addition to the ones he didn't particularly like. The distinction is, at best, tenuous.

 

[applesanity]

A great buzzword I might add.

1. "Islamo Fascist" implies that Fascism is a Muslim thing. We didn't call the Nazis a bunch of "Germo Fascists" (which would imply that Fascism is a German thing); we just called them "fascists." By the same token, we don't label Klan members as "Whito Anglo-Saxo Protesto Racists" - nope. Just "racist."
   
   
2. Were you just using the phrase "Islamic Fascists," you'd be implying that these people are Islamic AND Fascist. Shortening the Islamic word implies that it's somehow intrinsically connected to the Fascist word. You've change the connotations so much. Some might say that you have a bias against Muslims in general.
   
   
3. "Islamo" is not a real word. In terms of made-up words, it's pretty funny-sounding word. Like a mutant supervillain on a Saturday-morning cartoon show.
   
   
4. "I am LORD ISLAMO, bringer of death and destruction! Cower before me, you puny mortals!" (insert evil maniacal laughter here.)
   
   
5. And now we're really off topic.... Chavez is not Hitler. Hitler was a master of propaganda. Earning international and domestic scorn for acts of censorship = bad propaganda.