Thinking of saying bye bye to this one.

Well I fell into a good deal on a M700 action today, so I'll probably go that route and either sell this rifle or part it out.
 
Taylorce I have a old pet 700 varment special that has been shooting well. Also what loading tech have you developed to make the biggest improvements in accuracy? My 222 shoots well but not like that at 300. I agree with you on the 26" barrels.
 
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Taylorce I have a old pet 700 varment special that has been shooting well. Also what loading tech have you developed to make the biggest improvements in accuracy? My 222 shoots well but not like that at 300. I agree with you on the 26" barrels.
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Check the PDF in the link below, I've found this technique to work with pretty much any bullet. I find the seating depth it likes, then I tweak the powder charge for the velocity I want. Then I might adjust seating depth like in the PDF to finish dialing it in. I also go with the load that has the least vertical stringing, and don't worry much about horizontal.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535919
 
as a .243 with anything slower than an 8 twist will be boring
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Isn't that the 2nd time you've said that? I don't guess I follow what you mean. I understand all the attributes of high bc, fast twist, powder collumn vs bbl length, rpm's, max precision at max distance- but what makes my 1:13 6mm Rem or 1:12 .243 boring?

I'm really not trying to be a toot- honest. I just wonder what your insight and take on boring is.
 
Anything slower than an 8 twist limits a lot of bullet options that weren't available when the 6 mm Rem and .243 Win were introduced. With a custom tube I get to pick what twist I can use and I'll never pick slower than an 8 twist again in any 6 mm caliber. With an 8 twist I can run 55-107 grain bullets regardless of elevation and with a 7.5 or faster I can step up to 115-120 grain bullets with ease.
 
OK, that makes sense. Myself, I guess I'm a varmint hunter at heart and have no desire (so far) to launch anything over 58gr. The one and only time out so far with my 6mm- I was empyting 95gr Hornady factory loads for the brass. At 25yds sight-in distance, the 95's were key holing horrendously... suprisingly accurate keyholing, but still disheartening. Hopefully the 55's and 58's will behave much more. My tube is a brand new Lilja stainless on a 03A3 action.
 
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Check the PDF in the link below, I've found this technique to work with pretty much any bullet. I find the seating depth it likes, then I tweak the powder charge for the velocity I want. Then I might adjust seating depth like in the PDF to finish dialing it in. I also go with the load that has the least vertical stringing, and don't worry much about horizontal.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535919
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I love the gun. Hope I can get those kind of results someday.

I'm also intrigued by the method you identified and I'd like to start trying it out. One thing that I am not clear on is what powder load is used as a starting place for moving the bullet around. Do you start with a reasonable load with a given OAL (like from book specs), then push the bullet out to the 0.010" lands jump? Or just have something mid-range or low-range in the powder load?

Since max loads are specified based on specific measurements, Is there a risk of over pressure on some loads?

Maybe I should ask this in a different forum, but I thought it was safe to ask here since the subject was brought up.
 
My initial load workup consists of loading and firing 3 rounds from minimum load to 10% below load max with one round in between. You'll find out if you're going to be overpressure or not real quick in those three rounds. If pressure occurs I scrap the test and go home and pull bullets.

If no pressure signs occur I shoot the bullet seating test at 10% below max finding out what seating depth the bullet likes. After I find what seating depth the bullet likes, I loads up five rounds each from 10% below to max powder charge in .3-.5 grain increments. Sometimes a little over by .3-.5 grains if no pressure is seen. When I find accuracy and speed I'm happy with I'll then make some more seating depth adjustments to fine tune the load.

When I find the group I like, I go home and load up another five to ten rounds and go back to the range and compare targets to my previous load. I'll be happy shooting another five rounds if conditions are similar, if not I'll shoot all ten. If the load produces nearly same POI, I'll then adjust my scope for zero.

I've usually completed all my load development in less than 60 rounds fired for a bullet and powder combo. I tend to buy my bullets in lots of 500-1K for this type of rifle and all my powders in 8lbs kegs when available. So I'm good to go for many of rounds down range.
 
Thanks for the clarification. I'm ready to give this a try, except I've got some loads that are in the queue first. Going to the range today to get rid of those, then back to the bench to try this technique.
 
I look to find OCW, and go after bto after charge weight has been narrowed. Sometimes it works quickly sometimes it doesnt, but what really works everytime is going yo go SHOOTIN! hopefully today we will pin down loads with five different bullets and three different rifles.....hey JeffrS, dont forget to bring range m:Doney this time!.
 
Interesting load development method. 1:8 twist 115-120 grain bullets, hmmm.

I have a 1:9.25 twist and pretty much stick with the 105 grain bullets, but recently started using the 95 grain SST's and really liked the results. For load I start at 0.5 grains under max and a OAL of 0.05 off lands, that works for me.

Don't know what you did with your Stevens Taylorforce rifle, but for me this one's going with me when they put me under. (LOL)

Stay safe and shoot straight.
Jim

 
But you're keeping it, right?
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No I'm not keeping it, it is still in my possession but it has been spoken for.

Interesting load development method. 1:8 twist 115-120 grain bullets, hmmm.
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1:8 twist is needed for 105 to 108 grain VLD/custom bullets a 1:7.5 twist is needed for the 115 to 120 grain bullets. I'm going to a 1:8 twist to tune 105 Berger VLD's that have almost an identical BC to the 155 Berger, but go faster.
 
BAD BOY, had to say hello to that one!

You guys snoozed and hooligan1 now owns one of the very most accurate .243 win Stevens 200 rifles ever built.......one of these days pics will be posted of some solid groups.....
Heck even my wife said, "you gotta say Hello to that rifle".....
Thanx taylorce1.
 
Taylorce, I don't understand why a little extra weight would be a factor on a rifle that is shot either prone or from a bench.

Hooligan, that is definitely a good looking (and apparently good shooting) rifle.
 
Try carrying it afield on a 6 mile hike shooting steel across a course in the mountains with all your shooting gear and water. Pack it coyote calling and you'll find it unwieldy and a PITA to use. It does sit on a bench at a range very nicely, but it just wound up not being as versatile as I wanted.
 
Never sell a rifle, unless it was purpose built to sell. Once one goes in my collection, someone has to offer me much more than it is worth for me to part with it.
 
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