Thinking about getting a 9mm for teaching purposes. Which one?

Which 9mm would you get to teach new shooters?

  • Beretta 92

    Votes: 24 19.5%

  • Sig 226

    Votes: 12 9.8%

  • Glock 17 or 19

    Votes: 33 26.8%

  • Springfield XD/HS 2000

    Votes: 3 2.4%

  • Walther P99

    Votes: 6 4.9%

  • Hi-Power/Feg

    Votes: 8 6.5%

  • Steyr M9

    Votes: 3 2.4%

  • Kahr K9

    Votes: 2 1.6%

  • CZ 75

    Votes: 26 21.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 6 4.9%
  • Total voters
    123
Correia -

Like some other posters, it would help some if more was known about what you already have. I've taught many novices and agree with many that a Glock should be in there somewhere. Altho a Model 19 (midsize 9mm) could work, I went with full size (17). It, being my most common "go to" training gun has over 37,000 rounds thru it in 6 years.

The Glocks tho, most of which have double-stack magazines, can have grips that are simply too large for some folk's hands. For this reason, I purchased a Kahr K-9. It has a single stack magazine, thus a thinner grip, and is heavy enough to absorb a lot of the 9mm recoil.

Since your list included a 9X18, I am guessing it is probably a Makarov, which I use to demo DA/SA trigger. With slim rubber grips from www.makarov.com, it is not a lot wider than Kahr. Got another Mak with Pearce grips that are maybe softer, but chunkier.

Semi-auto wise, I also use a .45 1911, but rarely let a new student handle it except to understand the safeties and feel standard single single action trigger pull via dry fire.
 
Ruger

Most of the reasons for this were already given and I agree with those. Only thing that I'd add is that it's weight is what makes it such a smooth shooter. I'd not choose a light gun where recoil is a consideration.

If you want a gun that takes a lickin and keeps on tickin. The Ruger is all that.
 
Exactly as Rovert said!!

The Beretta is able to give you a better all round introduction and it is a easy shooter helping to build the new shooter's confidence...that is very important:cool:
 
Browning Hi Power. Period.

Doesn't have any "extra" BS grip safeties = you must manipulate the firearm as you wish to shoot it & with no "extra" "safety-stuff." = THE standard = draw, wipe/aim & shoot. The perfect semi-auto w/o any of the (even then) PC BS-stuff. (I am biased. ;) )

Double-action semis are a "solution" to a non-existent "problem."

"Extreme" manipulation of the slide/chambering, even by those "less-than-capable" (weak hands, etc.) because you can "hook" your (weak hand) finger across the front end of the slide & very easily chamber a round w/o any hand strength whatsoever. No slide manipulation required (from the back-side = hand=gripping) = great for The Ladies & the infirm. Try it, & you'll love it forever.

I have always wondered why (oh why!) the 1911 never incoporated (evolved into) the Hi Power .....

Nobody's ever given any reason why, except "that's the way it always has been ... " :confused:
 
labgrade,

I have always wondered why (oh why!) the 1911 never incoporated (evolved into) the Hi Power .....
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What? Why it didn't gain a mag safety, a higher bore axis, a fatter grip, a crappy trigger, a smaller caliber and a tiny, stiff, almost unuseable factory thumb safety? ;)

You seem upset about grip safeties lately. Talk about it, lad; get it off your chest. :)
 
Sig Sauer P210

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Tamara,

Because it is built like a Swiss watch and is very accurate. If you are going to teach someone, why not use quality equipment. On the other hand, they (whoever are being taught) might like the P210 too much that they insist on using the gun more than any other. ;)
 
Let's see...

-Outrageously expensive ( I believe budget was mentioned as a consideration)
-Single Action
-Heel Clip mag Release
-Unusual safety location (or is that an unusual decocker location?)
-Light trigger

YUP! Just the thing to hand a beginner to teach him about 9mm handguns.

Have you ever seen what happens while a newbie tries to work a heel clip mag release? Let's just say it's highly unlikely that the muzzle will stay pointed down range the whole time.
 
metal gear 2010,

Needless to say, they have quite a collection of guns.
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"Needless to say"? The majority of LEOs really aren't gun collectors. Ask your buddies, or the many LEOs on this forum.

Is it the Beverly Hills PD? SIG P210's are a little spendy; I know some cops who may like to interview with that department...
 
Partial to the CZ, could respect the Glocks, think some of the classic "wondernines" are a bad idea due to grip size.

Cops with quite a collection of guns. This is about as common as astronauts with quite a collection of starships.

Steve
 
"I could tell you...

...but then I'd have to kill you".


*snicker*


Go on, tell us; what Counterstrike mod has the P210 in it? ;)
 
Maybe they're Navy SEALs, too...but they can't show their DD-214s, 'cause they're classified, along with their Medal of Honor citations.
 
Give the kid a break Tamara, he may have seen a jpeg on the Internet before playing Counterstrike with his LEO/SEEL friends.:p
 
Just a consideration about the Beretta 92FS. At the range I work at we are starting to feel the 92 does not handle inexperianced shooters well. We have sheared our second locking block on our rental gun less then a month after we got it replaced. We believe it is related to the "limp wristing" that you see in inexperianced shooters. Just a warning on a possible problem.

Otherwise I am a big believer in the reliability of the 92FS and would trust my life with it... oh wait I did for 4 years.

That said I own a P99 now and love it.
 
I suppose I should have stated what I already had on hand to teach with:

.22 Browning Buckmark (I start them all on this)
9x18 Makarov (Good gun to demonstrate DA/SA + safety, thin grip, good controlability)
.40 Ruger P91 (Trigger pull is too heavy for most shooters, grip is fat, recoil is stiff)
.45 SA 1911 (surprisingly most newbies I've taken out like the 1911, but the weight is a turn off for some).

In revolvers I just have a S&W 1917. Great gun, but far too big to properly demonstrate the revolver to most people with small hands. I plan on getting a Model 19, or perhaps a security six to fill that roll. But that is a different thread.

Thanks for the replys.

And for the Sig 210, if you happen to see one at the gunshow for less than $300, let me know. That would be a great teaching aid! :p
 
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