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Those guys don't appear to be policing their 'hood. :rolleyes:

They appear to be giving responsible gun owners a bad name by linking gun use with alcohol abuse. :mad: They guy on the far right (with a beverage can in his hand) appears to have his finger on the trigger.

That kind of grandstanding doesn't do anyone any good.

-Dave
 
Breaking one or more of the 4 rules is the only way any of these men were being irresponsible in my opinion. I can't fault them for drinking... I have a couple beers during trap league every week, all summer long.

Unfortunately, the term "responsible gun owner," has become a PC cliche. If someone is following the 4-rules, that's a responsible gun owner.

I can appreciate showing some humor in the face of adversity - as these men appear to be doing.
 
You're right. I am way too serious about it.



I am way too serious about protecting my children from the deleterious effects of drugs and alcohol by educating them about their dangers.

I am way too serious about protecting my family from the dangers of automobile accidents by buckling them up and driving defensively.

I am way too serious about making sure that my home isn't a fire trap and that I have the tools necessary for my family to escape with their lives.

I am way too serious about helping loved ones who are hurt, so I take basic lifesaving and CPR courses every three years.

I am way too serious about providing for my family's well being by laying up extra food, water and firewood before winter.

I am also way too serious about protecting my freedoms, including my Right to Keep and Bear Arms. I don't drink when I carry and NEVER when I'm shooting.

Drunks with Guns?
You wouldn't catch me anywhere near that sign.
The Brady Campaign does enough to harm our Second Amendment Rights without us doing it to ourselves.

So yeah, I am too serious about it. Shame that more aren't... :(
 
Come on now............you don't expect them to drink the water do ya? Lighten up, these guys are trying to preserve their neighborhoods and property after a hurricaine.

If you are going to put up a sign to deter looters, "Drunks with Guns" just might be the ticket. I'm pretty sure these fellows are not trying to impress Sarah Brady.

It appears to me they are policing their neighborhood, and they took time out for a group photo. Yeah, "Drunks with Guns, You loot We shoot" might have been pushing the envelope, but if it keeps just one of these men from having to pull the trigger because a looter turned around and left, then what is the problem? Thank God New Orleans and the surrounding areas still have men who will band together to make such a statement in the face of recent events.
FWIW, if you were to choose almost any 13 gunowners based on proximity of residence rather than training and take a group picture, you would have at least one finger on a trigger, and one handgun pointed in a bad direction. You might even have someone erect a sign with a poor choice of words.
 
Good post XB.

Don't forget the battle between perception and reality. They may have wanted others to perceive one thing... But, the reality could have been completely different.

I'm getting tired of battling perception, when reality is much more... well, real.

If we stop worrying about how we're perceived, and battle those who wish to take our rights by introducing them to reality - we may actually win.
 
i don't think everything about guns has to be politicized. life shouldn't be such a bummer. to me that picture is funny. maybe i am not as stressed out a some. :p
 
Ok, how about the second fellow from the right. The one in the dark blue T-shirt and shorts. The one seated and holding a can of something as well as a gun. How about stating for the record what his serum alcohol level is, since you are so dadgummed sure he is irresponsible. Can you do that?

Are we going to accuse someone of being irresponsible if they clerk in a liquor store with a CCW? After all, there are a lot of signs pertaining to alcohol around a liquor store right? How about the cop who goes into a 7-11 at 2AM for a cup of coffee? Do the cans of beer in the cooler make him irresponsible? Why not? Are they not even more alcohol related than a spray painted sign? How about just demonstrating that one of these men has had one beer in the 48 hours prior to this photo. Can you do that? No? Then how is this any different than a sign that says a man has an ugly woman, two dogs and a claw hammer? Oh, I guess that fellow was not standing out front with his woman and claw hammer. :rolleyes:

How about complaining about hundreds of gangsta wannabes who post pictures of themselves with their gat sideways all over the internet? THAT hurts. Men protecting their property does not. Yes, Drunks is a bad term to use, I'll give you that, but you cannot prove a single one of them is drunk.
 
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Drunks is a bad term to use, I'll give you that,
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Thanks, Xavier. That's all I was asking for. I'm glad we're in agreement. :)

And I don't have to prove that any of them are drunk; that's not the point. They are embracing the term by their presence in the photo and that is irresponsible in my book.

-Dave

P.S. I split this into its own thread as it was, strictly speaking, veering from the topic of the other thread.
 
Drinking (I don't think I was drunk) resulted in the only AD that I've ever had. 21, .357, drinking, cocking hammer for SA shots, stupidity = gun going off right by my right ear (oh, forgot to mention that pesky rule of never have your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire).

The other thing that is funny (not ha ha) is that I actually got banned from a board for joking about my groups with the statement of "I should have been sober when I did this". edited to add: And it was a stupid joke. I've been told that I have a weird/bad sense of humor :o

Yeah, they were abit stuck up about it but I've found that drinking and shooting doesn't a gun board hero make (for some reason, I'm having fun of using the english language in ways that will tongue twist the mind :D. It must be Friday).

Wayne
 
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Is this man irresponsible or a defender of property?
The bottles behind him do contain alcohol. He has a gun. It might be loaded.

I am not advocating drinking and shooting. I am not advocating pulling over people who drive beer trucks to see if they are drunk either.
 

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Oh, to say:

TheeBadOne was most likely posting when I was posting and his smilie was meant for TheBluesMan post, not mine.

Just to help clarify.

Wayne
 
I'm sorry Dave, I fail to see the difference. Other than one guy who MIGHT have his finger on a trigger, and another who is accused of pointing a gun at the cameraman (actually it's a remote for the camera) how can this photo be any more irresponsible than hundreds of other images out there, including drawings on comic books, pictures on movie posters, and hundreds of gangsta rappers on music videos?

Thirteen guys banding together to protect their homes from looting, who decide to take a group photo before the wives come home, behind a sign they tacked up to a pole, are somehow incredibly irresponsible not because of what they are doing, but because of what the sign says?

The sign was meant as a deterent for looters, not as an instruction manual on shooting.

edited to add: I just realized this got separated from the previous thread.Thanks, it needed to stand alone! :)
 
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