The "Where is everything?" thread -- guns, ammo, primers, powder, etc.

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StukaJU87 said:
I don't buy ammo just to buy ammo, I shop for the price I want to pay. I can find any ammo I want, the trick is finding it at a price I'm willing to pay.

Prices will be whatever people are willing to pay. Buying at inflated prices and then saying "gee, I think these high prices are going to be the new norm" or "I don't think we'll ever see low prices again", is just stupid



And FYI, the following are not "deals":
$8/20rds of 7.62x39
$350/1000rds of 7.62x39
$1000/1000rds of .308
$1000/1000rds of .223
$60/525rds of .22lr

And the list goes on....
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Those sound like gunbroker prices. People bid up that stuff because they just want it and the money is not a problem and the least of there concern. It has a domino effect. Some see that and run out buy all the cheap Walmart ammo they can , then list on gunbroker. Some of those selling prices are laughable, but started out at $1.00 opening bid.
I would never pay those prices you listed. Well I shouldn't say never, if that's all you could get I might, but may not go target shooting with it. Someday those prices you listed may be a real bargan. I hope not though.
The last 500 bricks of 22 I bought was $30( not Walmart). Before that was $20. I am guessing they'll settle back in around $25.
The last 7.62x39 1000rnd cases I bought was $189, then $219, now it's around $249.
9mm was $ 10@ box of 50. Now it's $15.
The price of everything has many contributing factors. Wages, fuel cost for delivery and more. Crazy inflated price gouging is just that. Crazy! And yes , if people keep paying those crazy prices they're adding to the problem.
I can remember the days of 500 22lr for $5.
I'm glad I've seen this coming years ago so I can assure you I'm not part of the problem.
 
Good article. The government created the motivation and we created the problem. We stand as much chance of getting shooters to quit buying ammo as we do getting an obese person to quit eating. I'll just dust off my bowling ball for the next year or so and hold what I have for an emergency.
 
Hey guys, I just checked midsouthshooterssupply.com and they have 29 different selections of .224 bullets, even their xtreme bullets in 55gr hollow point in 500 and 5000 count boxes, yes, 3 zeros, you read that correctly. Hurry along now before the hoarders swallow it up. Happy reloading!!!!
 
Wen to a small out of the way gun club that was open to the public.

Picked up :

8LB jug of 2400 $123.00 + tax

1k Federal SRM Primers 34.99+ Tax

1k Winchester LPP 34.99 +tax

not to bad
 
Academy Sports had a lot of 40, some weird brand of 45 and a load of 4.6 x 30 - well, the latter is such a popular caliber. :D
 
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Sure. Except, the 4.5x30mm cartridge is notable in that there isn't a single commercially available firearm in the US chambered for it.
 
Its not hoarding if you are going to use them. I will shoot that much .223 in a year so why not get the price reduction for buying bulk?
 
I guess people are sensitive to the issue of hoarding because of the shortage.

10,000 bullets is nothing. I'm going to shoot that through a machine gun, so it'll go fast. Also, the seller was selling in packs of 5,000, so I bought two packs. The shipping and insurance on the first pack was $39, but an additional pack was only $5 extra shipping and insurance, so why would I not buy the second pack?

Right now, I'm paying component costs of $9 per 50 reloads of 9mm. That's insultingly high. If I could, I'd buy 20,000 9mm bullets to bring down the costs, but the midsouthshooters sold out.

With prices as high as they are, everyone has to buy in bulk, in an attempt to keep costs down...which might be why there's a shortage lol.
 
With prices as high as they are, everyone has to buy in bulk, in an attempt to keep costs down...which might be why there's a shortage lol.
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unfortunately, this isn't keeping costs down. with every gun owner and their mother buying bulk ammo it's driving the cost UP because it's becoming harder to obtain raw materials to keep up with demand. I think the cost will continue to go up and gun owners will price themselves out of the market. I wonder how much longer gun owners will continue to blame the government (or anti's or whatever other bogeyman) for the shortage. gun ownership is now becoming a pass-time for the wealthy
 
Two years ago, if someone had a years worth of ammo, they weren't hoarders. But suddenly, when others aren't able to drop by Wally's and get a $3 box of 22s, those who bought in bulk are seen as the cause for the higher prices and the lesser availability. That kind of reasoning doesn't work for me.

Companies that use a lot of fuel invest in the stuff needed so that they can buy fuel in bulk. Then they fill up their trucks at the barn instead of dropping by the QuickTrip every time they need to fill up. That doesn't drive the cost of gas up when I fill up, one tank at a time.

Those shooters who have a few thousand rounds, and those trucking companies who have a few million gallons of diesel, are able to absorb some of the day to day fluctuation in prices that happen naturally in any free market. Those who buy one at a time are more at the mercy of those fluctuations.


Sgt Lumpy
 
Two years ago, if someone had a years worth of ammo, they weren't hoarders. But suddenly, when others aren't able to drop by Wally's and get a $3 box of 22s, those who bought in bulk are seen as the cause for the higher prices and the lesser availability. That kind of reasoning doesn't work for me.
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people weren't hoarding to the same degree that they are now and stock was plentiful 2 yrs ago. I don't begrudge the gun owner that goes out and buys a couple of 500 bulk packs of .22 ammo. it's the guy going out buying thousands and thousands of rounds when he clearly doesn't need thousands and thousands of rounds. i'd venture to guess that a lot of gun owners like to shoot for fun and plinking with .22 ammo provides that fun. this is no longer the case anymore. what i'm seeing are a few greedy individuals going out and buying everything in sight because they can. I have 200 rounds of .22 ammo that I purchased last August. I haven't touched it because I can't replenish what little stock I have since everybody continues to hoard. fear makes people do strange things and claiming you're not part of the problem is part of the problem.
 
Last summer, I came across a deal for Federal bulk pack .22s so I bought a lot and haven't needed to buy more yet. I also was at the right place at the right time for powder and bullets and already had a lot of primers because of the last panic. I was and am lucky to have what I have but supplies are starting to dwindle and I have started looking for more. If I buy now what I did last summer, some people on here would accuse me of hoarding but last summer they wouldn't of blinked an eye at what I bought.

Is buying in bulk hoarding because there's a shortage or is it not hoarding because that's the way I've always done it? In my mind, the hoarders are the people buying that don't plan on using what they bought but plan on storing ridiculous amounts for whatever reason. I also don't like it that people are buying and reselling for profit but I can't really hold it against them either as long as people are paying their prices.

I really do think we are our own worst enemy as far as the shortages go.
 
Availability improving

If I were a scalper sitting on an inventory I paid retail for, I'd be nervous.

In the last week and a half, I've been able to get 4 bricks of .22 and a brick of 17HMR at regular prices, through regular retail channels. Compared to prior months, this is a phenomenal achievement! MidwayUSA has been great, but I was also present when a pallet of ammo arrived at my local gun shop - an awesome thing to see these days!

For me, 4 bricks of .22 isn't hoarding, it's life returning to normal. I'm done for now and I'm happy. We can go back to deciding who gets to pick the movie - who picks the restaurant - who does the dishes and everything else that needs to be decided based on who shot the best group or knocked down the most cans. Will I try to gain an unfair advantage by secretly practicing? Yes. Is that cheating? Don't judge. You'd cheat too if it meant you wouldn't have to sit through another chic flick. :p

I don't know that we could say the dam is breaking, but I see some seepage. Fingers crossed. Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for this supply drought. ~Feeling Encouraged~
 
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