the ULTIMATE self defence question, ever!!!

XD GUNNER wrote:
approx 16 oz loaded?!?!
Smith and Wesson 340PD with Speer Gold Dot .357 Magnum Short Barrels.
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See how XD GUNNER answered?! Now this is a man who isn't afraid to face hard dilemmas!!
Hats off to ya!
 
umm i guess a featherweight Smith or taurus 357 mag revolver with One loaded bullet might somewhat fit your bill for a one shot stop but seriously....the only way hes gonna drop instantly is if you shoot him in the face and that isnt easy in a dark alley
 
I'd also have to go with the 340PD--but I'd have it loaded with 158 grain +P .38's.

I have fired that revolver with full snort .357's, and let me tell you this...I have taken my .500 Smith and Wesson (4 inch barrel) to the range, with 50 350 grain bullets, loaded on 45 grains of H110, and fired them all of in a single session. I would rather fire 100 rounds through my .500, than fire TWO magnum rounds through that .340. Two rounds of full power stuff, and my hand hurt for five days.
 
16 oz?? My CC weighs almost twice that unloaded, and it's considered a compact!

Um...16 ounces...one-stop shot...

Maybe a zip gun with a .50 AE round in it? Good lord, I don't know. I don't even understand how the question is relevant or even ultimate, since I can't think of any circumstances that would cause you to have to limit yourself to such an incredibly small weapon.

For crying out loud, even a Glock 26 weighs more than that unloaded!
 
In a dark alley, a deadly assailant tries to do you in at close range!
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Well, what the heck am I doing in a dark alley in the first place? Furthermore, how were my powers of observation so clouded that I let some hoodlum get close to me?

I suppose, failing at all of that, I could pull a gun. Of course, I don't know how much that'd help me, since I'd never carry a gun that weighs less than 16 ounces....
 
I don't think the OP thought about his weight limit when he stated it. He said it was to limit the 105mm howitzer responses. Regardless, it isn't the "ultimate" question since it is asked about once a week (at least) on this forum. My choice would probably be my XDm 9mm (no clue what it weighs, but not much compared to my SBH or Walker). I feel certain I could get off multiple shots with it in stated scenario. Maybe not all 20, but more than one.
 
HINT: Do you go for penitration or expansion?!
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There is a correct answer?

I might opt for painetration.

Given the weight constraint, how about a can of hair spray and a bic lighter? One push and one flick of my...

Short (and light) bang stick? (12 gauge?)

LCP makes it under your mark, along with a few others in this niche.

If you really only want the one shot, Bond Derringer can get to 19oz at the smallest; and you could only load one of the two barrels! Take off the grips and you might make your 16 oz cut.
 
My lightest carry gun, a J-framed "airweight" Smith & Wesson .38, weighs 15 ounces empty. My next lightest, a Glock 23, weighs in around 21 ounces empty IIRC. These are fairly light handguns, and either would suffice in my hands for the need described.

Sorry, I don't carry mouse guns lighter than the J-frame, and mostly only carry that as either a secondary gun, or when concealment is critical and the weather is hot.

Daryl
 
Airweight J frame

My only gun light enough to meet the 16 ounce requirement is a S&W 642. I use it for backup or deep concealment, loaded with Speer .38 +P Gold Dot ammo. It isn't fun to shoot, but is controllable and it works every time.

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About the .357mag hurting your hand comment.... if you were about to DIE, would you trade your hand hurting for 5 days for getting killed? ABSOLUTELY. That is not a "fun" gun to shoot, but it will keep you breathing if you happen to be in a dark alley with a maniac. :D
 
I dont see any weapon I would trust my self defense to in the category stated. The way I see it if you figure your life is worth while you will hopefully carrys something capable of protecting it and to my way of thinking there are no handguns under 16oz that meet this requirement.

I did once see a 10GA pistol in the Cabelas gun library but I dont know what it weighed and the shell itself would take up much of the 16 oz limit, not to mention who wants to pull the trigger on what amounts to a 10 GA derringer.

As far as penetration or expansion, I of course want both but given a one shot choice I would go for expansion and hope I can cross the distance and physically handle the BG (given no other alternative)
 
The number one thing I learned in a self defense situation is to shoot to neutralize the threat. Why in hell would I have to stop shooting after one round when I have a loaded gun. Even with a canon, I will empty the chamber and ramp that chunk of metal into the assailant.

Yg
 
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In a dark alley, I'd say it's a non-issue. When the heck would you be doing wandering dark alleys in a part of town that would sport "deadly assailants wanting to 'do' someone in"?

The ultimate weapon is the one between your ears---use it first, use it right, and usually it's the only one you need... ;)
 
There are no dark alleys on my farm.

penetration gets to the vitals. Expansion is nothing without penetration, the 2 go hand in hand.

My .45 acp should do the trick.
 
If I KNEW it was going to happen, that 340PD seems like the best weapon for the job given the requirements. But in REAL LIFE, I would be taking my chances with .380 golden sabers out of an LCP like the next guy. Its a handgun. No caliber is going to give a one shot center mass stop every time. But most will most times, and thats as good as im gonna get.
 
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