The pocket carry guys always want to use the "hand on the pistol" time when claiming speed of draw, and no doubt, that would be a tad quicker. But who walks around with their hand in the pockets every minute?
I think a more realistic base, would be a "startle" draw, where you start from an "any given moment" of the day stance.
Either way, if youre paying attention and see it coming, you can still get to the gun fairly quick. With either, I would want to gain some distance if things are close, the last thing you want, is to be caught with your hand in your pocket or down your pants, if someone is within reach.
My buddy was an avid pocket carrier (to the point of having a TPH "Skoal ring" in all his pants) who always claimed how fast it was, until, when we did a little test, as hard as he tried, I repeatedly wouldnt allow him to draw it when I was only a couple of steps away.
I dont know about you, but people with their hands in their pockets are suspicious to me. Especially if they were to be going into them as I approach.
Not that someone reaching down their pants wouldnt be a little strange too.
The other thing often skipped over by the pocket carry people is, getting the gun out of your pants while seated. Now I know, with the pants I normally wear, I cant even get my hand "in" my pockets while seated, without a lot of gyrations. Just getting my keys flashlight, etc out, is a PITA.
SC, just lean back a little, suck your gut in a little, and the gun is right there.
I carry the gun just below the belt with my SC. Draw your gut in a little, and slip your fingers behind the pants at the buckle, and the gun is right there. No need to "push up", although that would probably work too, as long as the gun didnt get hung up.
Its really no different than drawing IWB, just, the gun is a bit deeper.
I dont see that any of the four rules is being violated on the draw, or at least not for me anyway. I dont "push up". I slip my fingers in front, and my thumb behind, and draw the gun up.
And as with anything, your clothing choice is going to be a factor. For me, even if I didnt have all the junk in my pockets I normally do (no room for a gun if I wanted), any handgun, even my Seecamp, would still be a challenge to get out quickly.
If you wear something like dress slacks, or something looser fitting, it may be easier.
Hey, the only way to know if something is going to work for you, is to give it a good try and see. We are lucky enough these days, to have so much readily available, it would be pretty hard not to find something that works well. And of course, what works well for one, may not work at all for another.
But you do have to prove that to yourself. From what Ive seen, most who complain about the SC's have never used one and dont understand them.
Bartholomew and John are actually the first two Ive talked to who use or have used them, to not like them. And thats absolutely fine, at least they tried it to know.
