The Ruger American Rifle

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A beautiful finish on a walnut stock and a beautiful polished blued reciever and barrel don't add one iota to the function of a rifle yet those things rachet up the manufacturing costs of a rifle considerably.
It looks like the gun manufacturers are catering to the demands of the marketplace.
 
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Its not the finish i am concerned with. I personaly love my controlled feed Ruger M77 MK 2, It wears a Leupold scope and is an accurate quality rifle. I could have bought the cheapest crap on the shelf but i saved a little longer and got the best i could afford. I just dont like the generic rifles that are being made these days. I just hope that this dosnt end up being our only choice from RUGER.
 
If you can save up $400 you can save up $900.
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I wouldn't be so quick to make assumptions about other people's finances. Maybe the difference between $400 and $900 is small to you, but it is still more than twice as much. For some one who has to save for months or even a year or more to afford a $400 rifle, the idea of spending $900 is likely out of the question. As long as they function well, God bless the manufacturers for making their rifles affordable... the right to bear arms, after all, is not just for those who can spend a lot of money.
 
If it took me a year to save up 400 dollars i would hit the pawn shops and buy a used gun. Probably a ski mask and gloves to go with it. Lol
 
TX - If you put away 50 bucks a month, it takes 8 months to afford a $400 rifle. For someone on a tight budget (a lot more people in this stuation these days than there were 5 years ago) putting away 50 bucks a month is a stretch. $25 a month takes 16 months...
 
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I can understand, our economy really crapped out. Its our own fault too. The nafta sucking sound has left our Country in a state of poverty. I was just hoping that our firearms manufactures keep making the quality products that we have grown to love. If a generic product is all a person can afford to arm themself, im just glad that atleast they are armed. Our Country needs more good paying manufacturing jobs and less low paying service jobs.
 
I would be interested in seeing a comparison review between this and a comparable Savage rifle; in particular, I wonder how this new trigger will compare to Savage's Accutrigger.
 
I think a lot of you miss the point - not all hunters like wood and polish.

Some guys just starting out, getting back in, or just wanting an all-purpose tank of a rifle like an option like this.

As long as it's well made (looks to be) and doesn't have the issues the Rem 770 has had what is the problem?

If you hunt in brush or rocky areas a gun like this is better in my opinion because you don't cry every time you scratch it. I used to have a 700 BDL and I felt like I was carrying the baby Jesus through the woods because I worried about it getting dinged up.

Why get up in arms over another economical choice? They still make the model 77 in blued steel and walnut.

I just don't get the meltdown and cries of "sellout" when a company is providing an alternative. I'd much rather take a chance on a Ruger than some of the other cheap options. I can almost guarantee that Savage will start putting out Edges with an Accutrigger now.
 
You know, there have been some high dollar rifles that were sub-standard. I don't know why this criticism is focused on sub-$400 rifles. I have seen recalls and factory screw ups on high end Kimbers, Remingtons, and Marlins. Sub-standard quality is not a function that is isolated to lower priced items.
 
What does it do that a Savage 110 can't do?
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Well, Ruger gets zero dollars and zero cents every time a 110 sells. So, first and foremost over the Savage 110, The American provides Ruger with money, as opposed to providing it to Savage.
 
There are, as we speak, quality rifles with decent glass already on them on a consignment rack near you ...... for less than $450. They are ready to shoot, and some may have accessories* with them. They probably don't have the chintzy plastic stock on them either.


*little brother picked up a Remmy 721 in .270 WIN in the fall of 2010 ..... with a Lyman loading tool, a couple hundred bullets and NIB W-W brass, primers ..... nice scope............. AND the the former owners load data.

$400 Tack Driver.
 
quality rifles with decent glass already on them on a consignment rack near you
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And if you are a new shooter, or just a hunter who isn't a gun guy, who is going to check that rifle out for you? You going to pay a gunsmith to give it a going over? There is an extra hundred dollars and I don't have a ton of confidence in any of my local smiths to begin with. Most people don't like to buy used things that contain explosions a few inches from their eye unless they know a lot about them.
 
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For the guys who don't like this, i would like to know your average age and how many guns you plan to buy in the next 50 years.
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I am 25... College educated with two degrees and working on a master.. paid my own way.. still paying on student loans. I work behind a gun counter and at a range.

I own ~50 firearms as of right now give or take. I have owned many more than that but started thinning the heard. Most of which were bought before I worked at the gun shop I work now. With student loans.. plus normal bills.. I probably pay more monthly in bills than most.

I save my change.. I have stocks.. I sell stuff on ebay.. I sell my guns I am not using on here. I reload ammo, I brew my own beer, and make my own wine. I cut coupons, I go to Sams Club. I drive a little car that is great on gas... not some huge truck that never gets anything put in the bed. I am lucky enough to have a G/F who enjoys shooting as much as I do. All of the few bucks I save doing this.. allows me to buy the guns I want... not the cheapest on the rack.

I buy about a gun a month on average maybe more.

The whole argument on needing affordable guns is pretty much irrelevant anyways. Ever think to checked out the used rack. There are much better made firearms selling for the same price if not cheaper than these junky economy grade rifles. Often times with a scope or sling.

And if you are a new shooter, or just a hunter who isn't a gun guy, who is going to check that rifle out for you? You going to pay a gunsmith to give it a going over? There is an extra hundred dollars. Most people don't like to buy used things that contain explosions a few inches from their eye unless they know a lot about them.
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Maybe you need to find a better shop with a reputable gun smith that checks over the guns before they are bought in you can trust? Either way.. buy new junk... just leaves more deals out there for the rest of us.

Just in the last year or two I got used:
S&W Model 66-1 6'' - $399
S&W 617 no dash 6'' - $450
Walther pps 3 mags, 2 holsters - $450
Springfield Loaded custom grips and 5 mags - $500
Remington 700 LTR 6.8SPC w/ leupold bases and rings - $450
Remington 700 Tactical 6.8SPC w/ leupold bases and rings Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x scope.. 6.8 dies.. and 400 rounds of ammo - $575
(that tactical shoots 3/8MOA at the moment with 110gr Sierra Pro Hunter reloads.)
FNH FiveseveN LNIB - $750
Kahr PM9 w/ black coating - $450
Ruger M77 .308 Target - $250
H&K P7-PSP - $280 (this was a special deal)
Sako Forester .243 w/ leupold scope and Sako rings - $550

There is more I am forgetting as well.

I like new technology and old as well.. I own old Sako's that sit right next to a Kevlar stocked 700 LTR. M1 Grand sitting next to a BCM AR-15.

The problem I have with this rifle.. it was not designed to be "the best" or even "better than average". It was solely designed to be cheaper. How many corners can we cut to make this thing affordable to compete with the 770 and Axis... which are JUNK.. sorry if you don't like to hear it, but it is true.

You will be the first ones in the crowd to complain about how gun manufactures are not making "what they used to be" and wondering why old model 70's and Ruger tang safeties and such are "just so dang expensive now". You demand junk that's a low cost... you will get just that... junk.
 
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Most people don't like to buy used things that contain explosions a few inches from their eye unless they know a lot about them.
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Sounds like an education issue..... this being the Information Age and all, that is easily and cheaply rectified.
 
HK Fan 9 Hello by the way im 39 years old, im a mechanical maintenance man in a paper mill. I dont have any set number of firearms i plan to buy in the future. If i do buy more firearms however it will be decided by quality of the firearm. In other words im not intrested in junk!
 
HK - the list of gun purchases you posted came to about $5100 worth of guns - congratulations on being able to afford that kind of spending. I am 35, I also have two college degrees, as does my wife. We are both paying off loans, as well as car payments, mortgage, supporting a family, and taking care of her mother, who lives with us and is unable to contribute financially. If I spend more than $1000 on anything, it better have four wheels and get me to work so I can earn more money!
By the way, only 2 of the weapons you listed had prices that were the same as or lower than the price of some of the new and inexpensive offerings on the market, and one of them is marked as having been a special deal - not exactly proof that supports your position.
 
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