The REAL Hogzilla!....(link)

Well gang, Fox Cable News is running this story nearly every hour on the hour. As I sit here listening while surfing, it's come on twice in as many hours.

They just had the kid on the phone and he sounds like a nice kid who had one helluva day in the field. :eek:

They keep saying the hog will yield about 700 pounds of sausage and they are having the head mounted.

I still wish they'd have draped an arm over the thing or something like that while taking the pics. I still look at the photos and get the same impression that forced perspective was utilized. :o
Oh well...

All I can say is: good job kid!
 
Big porker. It was on a pay hunt preserve and the kid had guides. This animal was no surprise sighting in the woods. I'd take a least a box of shells with me if I was going after that thing. Anyway, I think the thing is real, but as far as it being "wild" that is questionable at this point.
 
If it not real...AP confirms it...this was on the AP feed

Monster Pig may outdo Hogzilla
Boy bags 9½-foot boar with father
Saturday, May 26, 2007
KATE BRUMBACK
The Associated Press
MONTGOMERY - Hogzilla is being made into a horror movie. But the sequel may be even bigger. Meet Monster Pig.
An 11-year-old Alabama boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9 feet 4 from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail. Think hams as big as car tires.
If the claims are accurate, Jamison Stone's trophy boar would be bigger than Hogzilla, the famed wild hog that grew to seemingly mythical proportions after being killed in south Georgia in 2004.
Hogzilla originally was thought to weigh 1,000 pounds and measure 12 feet in length. National Geographic experts who unearthed its remains believe the animal actually weighed about 800 pounds and was 8 feet long.
"It feels really good," Jamison, of Pickensville, said in a telephone interview. "It's a good accomplishment. I probably won't ever kill anything else that big."
Jamison, who killed his first deer at age 5, was hunting with father, Mike Stone, and two guides in east Alabama on May 3 when he bagged Hogzilla II. He said he shot the huge animal eight times with a .50-caliber revolver and chased it for three hours through hilly woods before finishing it off with a point-blank shot.
Through it all there was the fear that the animal would turn and charge them, as wild boars have a reputation of doing.
"I was a little bit scared, a little bit excited," said Jamison, who just finished the sixth grade on the honor roll at Christian Heritage Academy. His father said that, just to be extra safe, he and the guides had high-powered rifles aimed and ready to fire in case the beast with 5-inch tusks decided to charge.
With the pig finally dead in a creek bed on the 2,500-acre Lost Creek Plantation, a commercial hunting preserve in Delta, trees had to be cut down and a backhoe brought in to bring Jamison's prize out of the woods. It was hauled on a truck to the Clay County Farmers Exchange in Lineville, where Jeff Kinder said they used his scale, which was recently calibrated, to weigh the hog.
 
More verification...

The taxidermy that has the hog is located about 20 miles from me and I just talked to him by phone. He says that the head will be mounted and on display at the Birmingham Deer Hunters convention at the Birmingham-Jefferson Convention Center this fall. He invited me to come up and see for myself. However, he said all the meat has been spoken for.
Here is the contact:
Calhoun County-Jerry's Taxidermy & Deer Processing/Jerry Cunningham, 46 Roberts St., Oxford, AL 36203 256-835-3336
 
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I have serious doubts that the kid did all the firing. Really, an 11 yr old and a .500.:rolleyes:

Second, even if the kid did all the shooting, he obviously wasn't capable of handling that particular firearm. 8 out of 16? He was shooting at the proverbial broad side of a barn. Obviously I have missed when I have been out hunting, but give me a break.

Third, after the animal was wounded, dad should have stepped in. If the kid is big enough for that hand cannon, he'd be big enough to squeeze off one round out of a high powered rifle and end the hunt. Or dad should have stepped up and finished things off. As hunters and sportsmen we should all strive for one shot, humane kills. That is not always possible but in this instance, they fell woefully short.
 
Hexidismal, you did a remarkable job with that photo. I love it!

I don't recall seeing any mention of how far the initial shots were. He shot a lot of shots, but I might have too. You just keep shooting till it's down. The whole story sounds pretty darn cool to me. I'm going to wait for the movie. Harry Potter, beware!
 
First, by the looks of the pig in the pic that's more than 1051 lbs. A bull that size is way more than 1,000 lbs. Also, that critter would be far from edible, they get nasty over 250-300 lbs. I'm not buying it.
 
I don't believe it either. First Rosie quits the View and then some 11 year old kid guns her down with a .500 Magnum while she's out for a walk in the woods. It's either way too good to be true, or 2007 is shaping up to be a good year.
 
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I'm calling BS

an 11 year old shooting a S&W 500.....I'm calling BS on THAT ALONE

sorry

I
aint
buyin
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oh yeah one other thing. About the scale of the hog and the boy.
If the hog is 9 feet and some inches long and the boy is standing right behind it resting on it as we are lead to believe, then, the boy would be only about 3feet tall. A midget for sure.

Wife is a graphic artist and I am an engineer and we both understand the concept of scale. This is a photoshop and FoxNews is falling for it.

Hard to believe
 
However, no workers from the co-op were present when the hog was weighed.
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badly needed clue no. 1

Suspended from rear hoof to snout
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well, have we seen ANY photos of the thing hanging vertical? Remember, there is hardly anybody in these United States that does not have a stinkin digital camera. There should be dozens and dozens of photos and videos of this thing with people around it and being interviewed. Let alone, photos of it being hauled, off loaded, etc, etc.

And he's the one currently in possession of the poker.
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spell it 'porker' and not 'poker'

I recall a story about a dude that claimed an alligator migrated up into Florence, Ala. and just as in Hollywood, it stalked him, lunged up out of the water at him, and he somehow buried a knife perfectly vertical, between its eyes and killed it just like Tarzan would have. THAT story dissapeared the next day.
 
So sure it's a Photoshop job ? Well, yes and no.

I'd like to take a minute here to address all the comments of how these images are "so clearly" photoshop work. This line of discussion interests me, as knowing and understanding the makeup of digital images is something I do as part of my living, and so I'd like to share my thoughts with you. I'd like to use two specific graphic images as comparison. First I'd like to show you an image which is real. Rather than glut up the thread, I'll provide a link. I do not know where this image originates from, only that it was linked to on the THR forum in a post on the duplicate thread over there. Here is the first pic, you'll be referring back to this one.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m211/Bigamhuntr/IMG_2189.jpg
Now, thats a big pig ! Do you think that image is a photoshop work ? Think again.
Ok, what makes me think that ? Some of you no doubt are familiar with exif data, and some of you I'm sure are not. So let me explain that as quickly as possible. Exif data is info hidden inside a digital photograph. It can be easily accessed with many programs, but understanding it all is another thing entirely. All cameras (and photoshop) leave behind a digital trail in the data, and this can tell us a lot of things. One important thing to note is that exif data can be modified and faked. IF one has all the appropriate data relevant to a specific camera it can be done, but it would be tedious.
Now, I'm not going to give a ton of examples here as to the how and why, but I am MOSTLY satisfied that this particular image is direct unaltered JPG upload from a Canon A75. (And to other graphics people, no I'm not just looking at the camera name.. I'm quite qualified to interpret all exif data). But why do I say I'm only MOSTLY convinced ? Well, that's interesting. See, the exif data has a slight anomaly when compared to this next image, which was taken(according to the data), with the same model camera just under 3 minutes later. Same model, and a near number label would of course lead one to believe it's the same camera used.: http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m211/Bigamhuntr/IMG_2196.jpg : Which would of course make sense. The problem ? I don't have a access to a canon A75 (actually if anyone is interested to play detective, and does have one, PM me) The aforementioned anomaly MIGHT lead me to believe that it was a different camera of the same model, or perhaps a different memory module, but could just as easily be an automatic setting variable. Everything else is consistent with being perfectly real and unaltered. I only mentioned the anomaly as a possible, though highly unlikely, sign of exif tampering.
Wow.. this is getting really long .. still with me people ? Anyway , in the first pic, I'll just keep it short and say I can find no evidence of digital manipulation. So, what I'm saying here folks, is if that first picture was altered, it is VERY GOOD WORK. Which is NOT consistent with the monsterpig.com photo . Moving on ...

To the monsterpig.com photo. The image in question, that most of you are referring to:
http://www.monsterpig.com/betterespigpic.jpg
You're correct, not real. It is both a forced perspective shot, and a digital manipulation. I can't use exif data as an example, because the data would have been altered to to include the site ad logo. You don't need to crunch the numbers though, the manipulation is so lax it easily seen. I've prepared a very rough image with some examples.
betterespigpic-copy.jpg

Well, be using the first image as a comparison here. They were shot at slightly different angles, but close enough.
Where I say "break in continuity, in all fairness this could be caused by simple bad resizing technique, go to small then back to larger from there and you've lost a lot of data and you'll get some blocky non-continuous things.. so even though it's there , lets ignore it. Why ? Because we dont need it. Compare the first pic I posted again to this one, and you'll notice there are dark hanging branches in the real pic that start on the left side of the center tree, and none on the fake. It's too prominent to be total resize loss. Oops monsterpig, I caught you .. but lets go on. Although it is partially a forced perspective (the kid is farther back then you are led to believe), also he HAS been altered to be smaller in the pic. To the uninitiated, what I refer to as "healing marks and errors" are an example of a sloppy job of reconstructing the area that would otherwise be left blank when you try to resize only part of an image. One has to repeat pixels from another part of the image, and then blend them in effectively. Obviously whoever made the image thought that a bad job of resizing would damage enough data to cover up the bad work.. but it didn't.

Well, I cant believe I bothered to get into all this, and type all this out. But hopefully this was informative to you.
-hexidismal
 
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To kill the massive beast, 16 shots were fired — all by Jamison. Approximately nine landed. They tracked — and sometimes were forced to avoid — the hog for more than three hours.
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Booo. :mad: Why let 11year old do it esp. with a handgun? I read there were other people with ‘hi-power rifles’ in case the hog charges. So why not just use the rifle? Esp when they saw the handgun wasn’t effective... 9 shots??? 3.5 hours?? that’s just barbaric. :barf:



http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m211/Bigamhuntr/IMG_2189.jpg
so which one's the hog? lol
 
LOL I was going to say the best evidence against is those two couldn't run through the woods for 3.5 hours. ;)

About the rifle thing....... it was a guided hunt, the guides had the rifles just in case. But ya not exactly a clean kill there.:(
 
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