The public knowing who owns guns

How about posting the names and addresses of cancer patients and others in chronic pain with a list of the narcotics they can be expected to have in their medicine chests?
Drugs are dangerous afterall, and surely its better that the neighbors know that drugs are present in their neighborhood. The fact that such a list would draw junkie burglars and home invaders like flies is just the price to be paid.
 
It is a good comparison imho. Though they are not trying to make narcotics public knowledge it has the same effect and shows the same attitude had by those who wish to enact such laws. Whats good for the goose is good for me too so its apples to apples.
 
I care. A lot. It is nobody's business what property I own. My close friends and family know I have firearms in my house (all secured in safes). But I don't want anyone targeting my house for theft based on the fact they know I have some pretty expensive weapons. It would be like advertising that I have a collection of Rolex and Omega watches in my house. That comparison is pretty accurate since some of my firearms cost about as much.

It is just nobody's business.
 
No one needs to know how many, if any, guns I own. The same group that worries about invasion of privacy in everything else seems to think the opposite when it comes to guns. Don't ask, don't tell.

People scream about criminals getting guns, but want to advertise where they can find some to steal.
 
I hope they dont post that sometimes my socks dont match. Dont want anyone breaking in and stealing the matching sets. Seriously people? That paranoid about legal prescribed narcotics to patients in horrible pain? :rolleyes:
 
JWT, I totally agree that NOBODY need to or has the right to know if and what firearms i own. But in our unpredictable society if these whack jobs somehow passed a law that every firearm I buy from NOW ON( if they don't already know what I have) would have to be in some kind of database.. It would not stop me from buying firearms like I normally do.
 
I'm happy for you

cen said;
I just really don't see that as a major problem.
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Well, I'm happy for you but you know better than to ask a question like this. I am suspect of your agenda and point of departure. .... ;)

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but it's just that. Personally I am pretty much a private and protective person but if you choose to be open about your personal life, then I'm okay with that. Perhaps you may even want to post it on FaceBook? .... ;)

Good luck and;
Be Safe !!!
 
PAHOO, glad your happy for me... I have no agenda. Please read my previous post. I would just give a little to keep what we have. Very sorry if your not, or if it terrifies :eek: some people.
 
I hope they dont post that sometimes my socks dont match. Dont want anyone breaking in and stealing the matching sets. Seriously people? That paranoid about legal prescribed narcotics to patients in horrible pain?
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As long as the narcotics "are properly secured ie( in a safe, vault, hidden), why would you worry that they would find them?"

Sounds like a valid comparison to me, they are both highly sought after by criminals.
 
I would think ANYTHING is valueable to a thief. Thats why they are thieves. Ever heard of a thief breaking into a house and taking nothing? Or maybe hes gonna risk a felony and jail time because hes picky. Really? I break into someones house im takin something. If not for the "rush alone".
 
My initial post was not to start a discussion on home burglary. By the way guns rank any where from 6-8 on the top 10 items stolen in a home burglary according to the top insurance companies. I would imagine because we hopefully don't leave our Glocks lying on the dining room table.
 
I apologize cen. The thread did get hijacked. Getting back to the thread. I dont care who knows i have guns. I open carry on my property just to let the neighbors know, if the try to get in my house, they are getting creased.
 
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cen and 318, if you guys are serious, you really need to rethink your positons. People have already had guns (specifically, guns) stolen from homes that were identified as having guns by the newspaper in Westchester County, NY. Thefts have been reported.

Guns are one of the most prized targets of burglars. (Edit: cen, you say guns are 6-8 of the top ten on insured stolen items lists like it is no big deal, since they are not in the top three. We are talking among the top ten... How many categories of item are NOT in the top ten? 8 of 10, total, would be pretty good. 8 of 350 would be horrible. Also, if only around half of households have guns, double the effective theft rate as compared to more common items.)

As far as safes go, they will protect against the methhead amateur who breaks into your house, but he is probably after cash, jewelry, and electronics. A skilled burglar will only be delayed, not stopped, by even a good safe.

I have a Sturdy Safe. Weighs about 1000lbs. It is made from 7 and 8 gauge steel, whereas many brands are 11 or 12 gauge. I paid for a few upgrades, to include stainless steel around the lock (to protect against cutting torches) and a ball-bearing loaded plate around the combo lock (to protect against drills). I also paid for ceramic fireproofing.

IE, my safe is much tougher and better built than the vast majority of popular safes. Even so, I expect it would take a skilled burglar with good tools (some of which he might steal from my garage) no more than twenty or thirty minutes to break into it.

There have been reports by people who test security gear that an 11 gauge steel safe can be easily penetrated by a fire axe.

Do not put so much faith into how scared of your guns a thief may be, nor how secure your safe is.

Note: My old safe was not as good, but the one time I was burglarized, it was not by a pro. Someone kicked in the back door, and stole an XBox, a flat screen TV, and a laptop. Suspect a druggie or a teen. First question from responding police: "Were any guns stolen?"

It did not appear the thieves went farther than the living room or bedroom. But what if my home had been listed as having guns?
 
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Ok, let me simplify it.

If after the smoke clears and some anti-gun legislator had their way and passed a law that said " From this day forward, anyone who purchases a firearm must register with ( insert agency's name) and that agency can make it public record that you bought and own it" , it would not deter me from buying a gun!

Are you telling me that if something like this was passed, you'd never buy another gun? That's all I'm saying. If I was forced, by law, to divulge my name and even address to continue to purchase firearms... I wouldn't be happy about it, but I'd do it. I think there are even odds whether they would say " let's rob this guy" or " we better leave this guy alone" because he has a gun. Sure they might "stake out" the house and do it all professionally when your not home.

I totally agree that it would be stupid for the govt to do something like this, for the reasons you give about alerting the thieves. But a big reason I own them is to protect myself in a situation like that, ( God forbid). I seriously would not lose any sleep at all.
 
Decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States hold that there is, at least, a limited right to privacy eminating from several provisions of the Bill of Rights despite the fact that there is no general, all-encompassing right to privacy article or amendment. See, e.g., http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/rightofprivacy.html.

Many people prefer to protect their most valuable possession from public disclosure, e.g., family heirlooms with little or no economic value.
 
Responding to cen,

I would (and do) fight hard against any such legislation.

I think what if games like this may condition people toward accepting such legislation, in future.

I have guns, and were such legislation to pass, despite my efforts in contacting my representatives, and despite my financial conteibutions to RKBA organizations, then I might not buy any more.

Back when I was into fast cars, I was into sleepers. If I wanted to smoke a Mustang 5.0, back in the day, its driver would have been caught very much off guard by not only the horsepower, but also the suspension in my plain jane looking family sedan. (It was not stock.)

I like the tactical advantages surprise offers.
 
Right on, MLeake.

All this talk about giving an inch here and making compromises is concerning. Look what happened up in NY recently. They had a 10 round magazine capacity limit. They gave an inch. Now they have a 7 round limit. What's next? 3 rounds? 1? Zero?

We cannot give ground, here. Our basic rights are being tampered with, here. Too many examples in history show that this kind of inch-giving is dangerous. Eventually, all the inches are given up and there's nothing left - no freedom left. Then real bad stuff happens. It happened in our land almost 250 years ago. The colonists gave lots of inches. Eventually they got tired of giving up little pieces of freedom. I am NOT proposing any kind of revolution, here. But I do think that we should pay attention to history.
 
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