The new Marlin 30/30 isn't on my buy list!

Maybe, I have some Rugers and love them all! But removing the mag tube on a center fire to load or unload it seems kinda cheap (to me)on such an expensive rifle. Marlin does carry a long history, the same can't be said for Henry.
 
The tube loading is only an issue on the Henrys for those who make it an issue.
I've worked with several in extended range sessions over the years, including the .44 Mag steeler two weeks ago, and yeah- it's not quite as handy to load as a side port, but I've never come home from a 200-round session with my thumb all torn up like I do with most side ports. :)

Trade-off & really nothing to do with quality. Just a different approach.
Denis
 
Not sure how you get that.
The owner wanted to stay with the tube-style loading of the original Henry design & making a more complicated trombone adds more cost than just going with a standard tube.

Denis
 
I can't find any solid evidence, but the probability is that marlin uses standard button swaging. I believe that the majority of barrels are swaged with the rest of them hammer forged, and there probably are only a very, very few that are actually cut at this time.
 
What other manufacturer has offered this type of loading tube on a center fire lever, pump or other action? It's like a hood prop rod on a car instead of spring hinges or gas cylinder.
 
Man, if it bugs you that much, don't get one.

There's a law says all leverguns have to load the same way?
Arthur Savage didn't think so.

It for damn sure is not a cheap way to save money.

Consider how many more parts & more machining operations there are in that Henry mag system than a conventional levergun tube mag.

Denis
 
As far as an inner tube being more costly than a blued tempered steel loading gate and a machined loading port, I'll take that argument.
So removing the loading tube from right below the muzzle is safer than unloading a conventional lever gun, interesting.
I know all about the 99, completely different gun design, I have 2.
Last I checked loading a lever gun through the loading gate is pretty easy and quick.
Maybe you should talk to Ruger, a swing out cylinder Blackhawk might be a good mate to a Henry?;)
 
Guv,
I gave you the reasons why that system's there & they have nothing to do with economy, nor do they lower quality anywhere but in your mind.

Of course the Savage is a different design, the point there is that a levergun does not HAVE to be made only in one pattern that's acceptable to you.

Unloading the gun without chambering every round in front of a cocked hammer most certainly is safer.

I won't argue it further.

As I said- don't buy one.
Denis
 
Same here,

I never intended to say a Henry 30-30 steel was cheap or cheap looking.

Does it use cost saving measures, that's up for debate.

I've owned a 68 year old Marlin 36 ADL for over for almost half it's life and can unload it without fully chambering a round.

I probably won't buy one (too many already) ;) but I do think the "Steel" ones are very nice looking.
 
My rossi 92 is a sweet little gun, but still a toy, mostly. I find that loading gate to be nearly impossible to use; my fingers are the size of a bratwurst, and getting that darned shell head completely through the gate is an enormous problem.

I would be far better served by one of the removable tubes as commonly found on .22s, or the buttstock loading like the spencer rifle used.(iirc...)

as has been said, each should choose his own system. My needs don't fit a loading gate. Someday I need to relieve the opening a bit.
 
I have been told I have some "sausages" before.
One hunting scenario to consider is, you just fired 2 shots at a hog/black bear in heavy brush and are following a blood trail. :( On your way after him with a loading gate you can recharge your Winchester/Marlin while it is still shouldered. Try this with the other brand. Now if high volume Cowboy shooting (or something similar) is your bag, then the Henry system would seem to be more convenient.
 
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