The Militarization of the Police

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The Militarization of the Police

by Bob Wallace

About 20 years ago in my hometown the police quietly and at night pulled up about 50 marijuana plants from a woman's backyard. They bagged them and disposed of them however the police dispose of such things.

The next morning an outraged elderly woman called the police and complained some hooligans had sneaked on her property the night before and pulled up every one of her okra plants. And then absconded with them!

The police were embarrassed, but came clean and admitted their mistake. They compensated her for her plants, the newspapers had a good laugh, and the whole thing was forgotten.

According to Google, marijuana and okra bear a strong resemblance to each other.

I assume the police were sending a message to whomever they thought was the grower: we know who you are, so quit what you are doing, or next time you will get in big trouble. Call if a friendly warning.

That common sense among the police is evaporating, if not gone.

Now imagine how that raid might have gone down today: cops dressed in ninja-suits, with submachine guns, crashing through the woman's doors and windows in a pre-dawn raid, throwing concussion grenades throughout the house and macing and tazering and cuffing the poor old lady after tossing her on her floor from her wheelchair, and shooting her incontinent Pomeranian as a potential threat. And maybe shooting her, too, if she didn't die from a stroke or heart attack.

My, how things have changed in 20 years. Officer Friendly has turned into the Gestapo pointing a Heckler and Koch submachine gun into the face of a six-year-old Elian Gonzalez. How can a man like that live with himself? The only way is if he rationalizes and deludes himself that what he did is honorable. Which it isn't, in no way. Obviously, self-delusion knows no bounds. Personally, I would have never done what he did. Had that order been issued to me, I would have quit.

What the heck has happened here? Whatever happened to Mayberry and Andy and Barney asking for permission to put his one bullet in his revolver? How has the line between the police and the military become so blurred? Or better yet, degraded and eroded? There must be an explanation.

Could it have anything to do with the War on [Insert Whatever]? Whenever people say, "There ought to be a law" what they're saying, even though they rarely understand it, is that ultimately the police should be allowed to stick a gun in someone's face – or even kill them – to make them follow the law, no matter how stupid or immoral that law is. "Declaring war" on whatever is currently illegal means militarizing the police and demonizing lawbreakers. Unfortunately, that demonizing always slops over onto whatever innocent citizen who happens to get into the way. Everyone becomes guilty, no trial involved.

War always creates an "us versus them" mentality, always among soldiers, and now among the police, when we pretend government can declare "war" on domestic "problems." That's the price we are always going to pay with, "There ought to be a law": the "lawbreakers" are always the bad guys deserving of death, even if that "bad guy" is merely smoking a joint to overcome the nausea of chemotherapy.

Of course, brutality always follows this dehumanization. "The War on Drugs," or on obesity, or tobacco, or firearms, always involves dehumanizing the target. It's an unavoidable part of human nature.

Do we really want to create police who dehumanize and demonize the public? That's the path to creating better killers, not better police. When's the last time they were referred to as "peace officers"? And since when have "peace officers" been issued fully automatic M-16s? And bayonets?

This dehumanization and demonization will always happen when the line between the military and police disappear.

The problem has been going on for longer than it appears. Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, author of On Killing: the Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society, writes there is a powerful, innate resistance to the taking of human life. In World War II, only one in five soldiers fired their rifles.

By the time of Vietnam, this percentage had been raised to the point where only five percent didn't fire their weapons. Perhaps this is a good thing from a military point of view (and I'd argue this is debatable), but in the long run it is terrible for society.

This change was created by desensitizing soldiers to killing, by teaching them the enemy is not human, by teaching them to not think but instead follow orders without question. When the police become militarized, and are trained with modern military techniques, they're being taught the same thing: those defined as "perps" are not human. That's how a grown man can stick a submachine gun in the face of a six-year-old boy. He's not thinking; he's just "following orders."

Writes Grossman, "We are reaching that stage of desensitization at which the infliction of pain and suffering has become a source of entertainment: vicarious pleasure rather than revulsion. We are learning to kill, and we are learning to like it."

Militarizing the police, and the attendant dehumanization and demonization of the public, and "there ought to be a law," is not the path to a better society. It is the path to the public being the enemy, including those who say, "there ought to be a law" (and how shocked they will be when it comes their turn to be brutalized!). It is, ultimately, the path to tyranny.


http://www.lewrockwell.com/wallace/wallace213.html
 
Sounds like someone got a speeding ticket, or got busted for his perfectly sane use of "medical" marijauna. Typical leftist jibberish.
 
. Anybody paying attention can see how brutal the police have become. I watched an episode of COPS that made me sick. Some guy bought 10 dollars worth of weed form an undercover JBT and as soon as he walked off, some bully thug of a cop blind sided him with an NFL style tackle. Then, the rest of the bully thugs came out of their holes and arrest the guy. All this for 10 bucks worth of weed. All the resource expenditure for this. Police make me sick when they do nonsense like this. The government makes me sicker.
 
My thoughts are that it is time for another revolution in this country.

yeah... I'm almost with you there...

Militarization of the police began when they started issueing body armor, full autos, and other such things that civilians either can't own, or have a hard time getting.
 
The desensitizing was a description of society as a whole and young killers in particular. Grossman also wrote that police and military are disciplined to use force when necessary and to turn it off when not needed and would suffer consequences when it was applied recklessly and indiscriminately.
I abhorr the so-called War on (some) Drugs because it has done nothing to curb drug abuse, but has gutted the Fourth Amendment to the point that obtaining a search warrant is nothing more than window dressing. This in turn has had the effect of the Second being flushed and led to bans and restrictions on gun ownership.
There's no doubt that federal LE is getting out of hand and resembles more of a domestic internal security apparatus than it does agencies created to "serve and protect".
However, I think the writer has taken some of Grossman's comments out of context and applied them where they weren't meant to be applied.
 
Militarization of the police began when they started issueing body armor, full autos, and other such things that civilians either can't own, or have a hard time getting.
Jonathon, how can you be PO'd b/c LEOs have body armor and auto rilfes/SMGs? LEOs everyday depend on their armor to help them survive. Weapons like AR-15s are now a necessity due to the weapons and armor criminals use (i.e. North Hollywood). As far as I know, no street cop carries a full auto weapon. Only tactical teams, and there are strict policies when auto fire can be used. It really isn't about "us vs. them" and more about going home to your family in tact. Thoughts?
 
I wanna go home to my family safe to, but the police don't care much about that. So, I don't care much about them.
 
Aw lillysdad, think outside the uniform for a minute. We (I) realize that you deal with some really bad despicible people regularly. Is it possible that in doing that, you have been desensitized to being able to recognize & deal with regular people in a reasonable way? WADR, 10 bucks worth of MJ don't deserve 4 cops jumping up n down on your back.

I agree the enforcement techniques employed nowadays are over the top. You guys look close at the elian pic and notice the velcro'd on tag? (Today I'm DEA, tomorrow I'm BP, Next week I'll be ATF.) I think thats too conveinant and might as well call it MJTF. It's a standing army and it is not supposed to be like that.

I watch the Rifleman regularly on tv and the thing that jumps out at me when I watch it is how polite the sheriffs & marhshals are to people, even BG's. It was prolly pretty much like that back then. Respect is a two way street. That COPS show is (in my mind) designed to desensitize people to gestapo type tactics and teach us how to roll over real fast for them regardless of the circumstances or severity of the alleged crime. Even supposed pro gun people get on here and preach 'roll over fast and work it out in court'. Thats not correct and encourages tyranny and abuse.
 
I work in a town of 5000.....I cant afford to be rude. Until the time calls for it.

On duty Ive revived folks who've stopped breathing, delivered a baby in the front seat of a minivan, herded more horses and cattle off the road than I can count, and held little old ladies' hands as they took their last breath. All this in the year that Ive been a cop.

Ive also "NFL Tackled" folks for less than ten bucks of weed, and pulled people out of cars at gunpoint while their kids watched. I can guarantee you that Id much rather do the former than the latter. Unfortunatley, my requests for call load that I keep turning in dont go through. I never know what Im gonna get into.

Im truly sorry if our "Gestapo" tactics piss you off. The next time you get stopped, make sure and tell the officer how you feel. I am sure you will get a sticker, balloon, and one of the "Barney the Friendly Stormtrooper" T-shorts we hand out.
 
The photo showing the police officer or whomever with his mp5 raised in the direction of Elian might have been a bit graphic to see, but when you look at other video of the raid, it shows how when the police were doing the raid, many people surrounding the house (probably relatives) were in an uproar. (It looks like confusion everywhere) The police were probably expecting anything could have happened to prevent the detention of Elian. Once inside the house, they have to clear it, with guns raised. Remember, the man holding Elian was resisting by not giving him up in the first place. (I am not saying whether he was right or wrong, that's a political issue) Photos can be deceiving because they are only a frame, showing what happened at that specifiic instant, and not the whole story. THe media would eat up a pic like that. The gun aimed at them would have been avoided if everyone played nice and gave him up w/o the police having to raid the house. Many people will never be aware of the stress p/o face outside because they are not police officers.(Myself included)
 
Im truly sorry if our "Gestapo" tactics piss you off. The next time you get stopped, make sure and tell the officer how you feel. I am sure you will get a sticker, balloon, and one of the "Barney the Friendly Stormtrooper" T-shorts we hand out.

So the time calls for it right now? :rolleyes:
 
I wanna go home to my family safe to, but the police don't care much about that. So, I don't care much about them.

Mike, don't let hate rule your life. There is no such thing as "the Police" (it's only in one's mind, a state, a bias). Try to move past it, you'll be a much better person for it.

All the best

TBO
 
MikeTx, so don't donate to the policeman's ball. It simply amazes me that people get PO'd (actually, this is the only place I've ever encountered it) b/c LEOs have had to equip themselves with gear that is necessary to save their lives and yours.
 
Its not a terrible thing for the police to have armor or automatics, but in all honesty:

Why are we restricted when they arn't?

I don't expect, nor do I believe that a LEO will be better at protecting me. Its not their job to protect. Its their job to take the bad guys into custody, prosecute them, and carry out the orders of the court. Nothing more.

Let me ask you this, how often does a cop prevent a crime? How often are they in the right place to prevent?

The responsible path is self protection. Do not rely on those who are to few to protect.
 
I wont argue that point with you. I have no problems with allowing legal ownership of Class 3 stuff without registry, and without BS tax stamps. In OK, where I am, body armor is not restricted, so thats not an issue.

However, its not as easy as you think. I cannot own a full auto, SBR, SBS or DD any easier than you. My department can choose to buy and issue me one, but it sure aint mine. Most departments do not do this, however. Every gun I carry, from My Sig to my 870 is mine, and all are no different than what you can onw, and probably not as nice, as I make about thirteen cents an hour.
 
Why are we restricted when they arn't?

You're gonna have to talk to your congresscritters about that. From what I understand, that was no work of the police, but some piece of feel-good legislation passed by a shady voice vote atmidnight when a completely pro-gun bill was about to be passed.
 
The militarization of the police? Machine guns? You mean like back in the Roaring Twenties?

Well, not every little police department could afford machine guns back then, but some had them. They got pretty fast cars, too. And radios eventually, just like the military. It's a conspiracy, don't you see.

I believe the purpose of the COPS tv show is to show what the average police officer has to put up with on a daily basis - a bunch of complete idiots and raving lunatics. Now if they'd only arm and equip the teachers.

John
 
great feedback everyone, i was hoping this wouldn't turn into a cop bashing thread, and it hasn't.

IMO the trend toward militarization runs across the board, not just in the police. American society in general seems to become more violent over time. Blame it on tv, video games, single parents, the apparent causes are numerous.

so which came first, the chicken or the egg?

did police become more violent in response to the criminals, or did criminals become more violent in response to the police?
 
I guess that some here won't like Claire's article in the new issue of SWAT then :).

I think that the LEO's of this country have gone too far. Now, don't get me wrong, I want liliysdad and the other LEO's on this board (as well as any LEO, including Frank) to go home safe, but not at the expense that we (the civilians) are paying now.

The way things are going now, too many mistakes (when it comes to the death of an innocent, one is too many) are being made. And when these mistakes take place, and the LEO or Fed is given a medal, then that just widens the gap and distrust between civilians and LEO's/Fed's.

While we sit here and laugh at wanna be commando's that come onto the board every once in awhile, we can't laugh too much when we realize that there are wanna be commanders that are out there, paid by us through our taxes, in uniform.

Wayne

*Sorry if I was the first to make this a "bashing" thread. I just tell ya what I see.
 
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