The king of cheap

kirkcdl said:
both my bikes together cost less than half of a Harley...

That translates directly to more beer money...


Plus,I can feel my butt at the end of the day,too.
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hey, i can feel my butt after riding my road glide all day! though i'd prefer it if my wifey did the feeling.....lol..


and i make fun of noone's firearms. be it a lorcin, hipoint, ed brown or kimber. like riding, it's the fact that you partake that makes us brothers/sisters in arms. our opinions are what makes us individuals.



btw, kirk, keep the wind in your face and the sun on your back, and the rubber side down bro. (goldwing riders and those on bmw's are about the only real bikers left, just about everyone else trailers..***??)
 
Greetings, w_houle!

Actually, I appreciate it when some one actually reports on the performance of “underdog” brands. I can get reviews of all the “name” stuff in the usual gun magazines, but I know I have to take those “reviews” with a few grains of salt. I’d rather trust the ladies and gentlemen on these Forums---they tend to be more careful and more honest, since they know that people who read their posts can actually talk back.

The funny part about owning things is how conscious we can get about what the rest of the world thinks about what we personally choose. I know a lot of shooters who will readily admit to owning Manurhin revolvers or STI comp guns, but will not volunteer the fact that they also keep Jennings .22s and Armscor .38 revolvers at home.

Me? I just did a 9000-round report on the Walther P22 in The Semiauto Forum, even if some people here consider it to be very close to being a “junk” gun.

My son tells me that one of the first things you learn in business school is that, in the real world, there is very little correlation between a product’s quality and its actual price. The manufacturer’s job is to produce a product as cheaply as possible; the marketer’s job is to sell it for as much as the market will bear. Learning to identify quality is the key to determining a product’s actual value.

Another thing he says is that the last 10% of a product’s performance can account for up to 90% of its actual cost. I figure that’s probably why Olympic-grade target pistols are so expensive. Same with those fancy Italian sports cars.

The previous posters are all correct---not every one of us can afford gilded 1911’s that cost over $1,000 and (if we know what’s good for us) we are better off buying pieces that we can actually afford. Truth be known, we could probably be getting better value for our money!

Neon commented that “The band that binds us all together is our love for firearms.” I could not agree more. I just wish we could respect each other’s choices better.

Arguing how “mine is better than yours” simply does not hold water. If what I choose doesn’t make sense to you, it’s no skin off my back! As for me, you will never hear me criticizing your choices. And I will be happy to hear what you have to say about them.

Isn’t that the reason we’re on these Forums?
 
Like Chesster, whose taste in guns I admire, I can usually afford more expensive stuff than I buy. That wasn't always the case though, and I still try to buy smart. I have four requirements that must be met by any gun I buy. The first three requirements are that 1. it must be in an effective caliber and 2. be reasonably inexpensive (You can read that as cheap if you like, although I don't buy cheaply made guns) and 3. that ammo for it be relatively cheap and plentiful. Examples of my kind of guns are police trade-ins of service revolvers that will handle 38 Special +P ammo. Semi-automatic East German Makarovs (Pistol M type) like the one I own are getting expensive now but several other semi-automatic military surplus weapons are availiable for less tha $200 that fire that same very inexpensive and very effective 9MMx18MM Makarov round. There are some great buys still out there in long guns too. Everybody knows about SKS's and similar surplus rifles, but did you know that there are classic Browning patent semi-automatic shotguns (Remington Model 11's and Remington Sportsman models)that can be found selling for $250 or less? I know. I just bought a Remington Model 11 in very good condition for $200.Which brings me to my fourth requirement for guns, and I suggest you make it one of your requirements of purchase too because you can't afford to lose money. It is that I must truly believe that the gun I buy will appreciate in the future, not depreciate in value, or I don't buy. That automatically means NO NEW GUNS for me. (There are exceptions to all rules of course. I bought a Kel-Tec P3AT for CC when it was the only truly concealable gun out there in an effective caliber.)
 
There's nothing wrong with buying less expensive guns that you end up taking care of and using. Nothing wrong at all with that IMHO.

Why would you think we'd criticize you for that? You sound like a reasonable, logical thinking man. That's good IMHO!! :)

ETA: Have you ever thought of getting a curio and relics license? You can get well made inexpensive guns that way IMHO. Those military/police guns are built real well IMHO.
 
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My son tells me that one of the first things you learn in business school is that, in the real world, there is very little correlation between a product’s quality and its actual price.
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There may well be some truth to that but most of the time you get what you pay for.
 
I work two jobs right now and get about 44 hours a week.

One job pays $8.50 an hour and the other pays $8 an hour.

The majority of my gun collection dates to when I made $4.25 an hour working as a security guard.

I have multiple 629s, and a 29, a Colt Python and Anaconda, several Berettas and 1911s, one Glock and a few Taurus handguns a couple of L frames and K frame Smiths too a USP and some single action peacemaker clones.

I am guessing that if you make $12 an hour and are shooting junkers, you are living above your means, or you don't budget well.
I remember when I owned two guns a six inch 29 and a six inch 629 and one of my buddies was carping about how he could not afford a nice gun, despite the fact we both made minimum wage.
I pointed out that if he would quit smoking and put aside $10 a week back then (late 80s) he would have over $500 at the end of the year to buy whatever he wanted.
In fact, that was how I bought my H&K USP. $10 a week socked away.
The average person blows $50 a month on cell phone service and $50 a month on Internet service then they claim they can't afford a decent 1911?
Gimme a break!
I pay $100 a year for a cell phone card that usually lasts more than a year. I had about 400 minutes left last year when I renewed it.
Thats right. You can get cell phone service for $100 a year. So why spend that for two months with your picture phone and pack Zamack instead of steel?

Get a trac phone and only use it for emergencies. Use the internet at your public library. Save your money and you can buy whatever you want.
I get by just fine without cable television, a landline telephone and a LOT of the crap so many people think they can't live without. And the money I save pays my bills as well as funds my weapons collecting.
 
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i'm on a fixed income, and just barely get by month to month. when i got married 11yrs ago i used my shotgun for my defense weapon, until i saved a few months and got a hi point c9. as my wife and i started talking about her shooting, i let her try the c9 she did not like it cause of the heavy slide spring. i saved for almost two yrs before i could afford the gun she liked, a ruger sp101 she loves it and now i have a gp100. if a person is on a budget a hi point is ok, and loved mine my brother inlaw has it now and it still going good. but would reccomend after getting a low cost gun to protect yourself, to start saving and get a better gun sometime down the road. it took me awhile but i finally got a 357mag, a gun i always wanted.
 
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