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None that I've heard of.jaysouth Tom
Were those ever produced in 9X21 for the Italian market?
If they were that would be among the rarest of Hi Powers.
None that I've heard of.jaysouth Tom
Were those ever produced in 9X21 for the Italian market?
As the 9X19MM is the most used centerfire pistol cartridge on the planet, I and many millions of others don't think designing the Hi Power and so many other pistols around the 9MM cartridge was a mistake.
What centerfire pistol cartridge do you think was more popular?44 AMP
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As the 9X19MM is the most used centerfire pistol cartridge on the planet, I and many millions of others don't think designing the Hi Power and so many other pistols around the 9MM cartridge was a mistake.
while guns designed well after WWII and the creation of NATO with 9mm at its standard makes sense, note when the High Power hit the market.
1935
I think the 9mm Luger was not the most used centerfire pistol cartridge on the planet THEN.
It wasn't dominant, but probably the most widely adopted round being used extensively by Allies and Axis alike.It was popular, but not the dominant round is became after WWII.
England didn't use the 9mmP prior to WWII because they had little interest in submachine guns. Once WWII started they sure as heck became interested in 9mmPNations that had adopted the Luger pistol were potential customers. But not Nazi Germany, who still had Lugers and were looking to adopt their own design (which became the P.38). England didn't use the 9mm.
France and Spain were noted for loving obscure cartridges that had little interest outside their own.Nor France, or Italy, or Spain, nor, of course, the Soviet Union.
No hope of the US govt buying the High Power, and before WWII, the 9mm Luger was not a particularly popular round in the US civilian market.
True.Making a pistol in 9mm Luger back then was NOT the sure thing it is today.
Extensive use of 9mmP handguns in WWI greatly increased popularity after the Armistice.
I'm guessing the 9mm Luger was in the top three centerfire pistol cartridges in 1935 based on Germany producing sub machine guns like the MP34 from 1929-40.
Civilian market was/is an afterthought in Europe. Military and police contracts drive sales and civilian sales are gravy.44 AMP
I won't argue about "greatly increased' but, considering the 9mm Luger was only 6 years old at the beginning, and 10 at the time of the end of WWI, that's not a lot of time to build up a popular following, particularly in civilian markets.Quote:
Extensive use of 9mmP handguns in WWI greatly increased popularity after the Armistice.
I do.I' not sure that it is proper to count the 9mm's popularity as a submachine gun round with its popularity as a handgun round.Quote:
I'm guessing the 9mm Luger was in the top three centerfire pistol cartridges in 1935 based on Germany producing sub machine guns like the MP34 from 1929-40.
Here in the US for sure, but worldwide? I don't think so.If you look at non-military handguns, models made and numbers made, I'd say the .38 Special was more popular (meaning more people owned and used them) than the 9mm for a very long time.
Point and shoot is incredible on the Hi Power. Yes they're getting expensive, but you're still getting a hand fitted pistol.