The biggest gun "whopper"

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What about all of the .45's that will knock a man down if the bullet hits him in the finger or such?

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I guy I work with used to have an M-1 Garand with what he refers to a "Star-light, Star-bright" scope on it.

In complete darkness, he used to be able to shoot a one inch group...at 1,000 yards.

Unfortunately, he had to sell it a few years back when money got tight.
 
American Ammunition (in the clear plastic box with the blue label) is as good as any ammo out there. It is just cheaper.
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WalterGAII: I guess that I should have taken video, because the Mini that I had would do exactly that. Not a 5-shot group, but 3, which seems to be the accepted standard for rifles in all the gunzines. Oh, yeah, that was with OPEN sights(aperture). :) Yes, it's been sold.
I like the classics: ".357s will penetrate an engine block"-"birdshot won't go through a wall"-"a leather jacket will stop a .32/.22/?"-"the SEALs use/carry a (insert here)!"-and on and on.
 
That a .223 bullet tumbles end over end while still in the air traveling to the target, which is why it's so devastating to the human body, but this is ONLY from an M16 or AR15, mind you.

Benton, Darn the luck, that that guy sold his 0.1 MOA rifle with night sighting system! :( Otherwise, we could have carefully studied the design, and reverse engineered to make all rifles do this...
 
I never heard of a three-shot group being a "standard" anywhere. Go over to benchrest.com or varminthunters.com and ask those guys about three-shot groups. :)
 
I don't know why I'm writing this here, since it's absolutely true, but there's a bit of history that needs correcting. I had decided to spread the ol' swimming wings and take a little boat trip a few years back. It may have been sheer stupidity on my part or just bad timing, but I convinced the captain of the boat to let me build an indoor shooting range. By convinced, I really mean, didn't ask and was thus never told "no". A loophole, perhaps, but I get antsy on boats. Anyway, my first 50 rounds shot the bullseye out and I figured another 150 wouldn't hurt anybody, so I continued shooting at the targets I'd laid down on the floor, this time in a long line spanning the length of the deck. It wasn't long before sirens began to sound and pandemonium ensued. Would you believe that my little .357 had perforated this ship and that it was falling apart? I convinced the man who sending out distress signals asking for help of any nearby ships to fib a little on the reasons behind the sinking. By convinced, I mean I knocked him out and sent out a false message. I don't have to tell you my face was red as I hopped onto one of the life-rafts and watched as the ship sank. That boat, my friends, was the Titanic. Whew. It feels so good to get that off of my chest.
 
One of those myths is true. In several tests, the metal penetrating bullet from a .357 Magnum did crack the engine block (actually the water jacket) of a car. In fact, it does not take a lot to crack a cast iron water jacket, but it was great publicity for S&W and Hoover's FBI, who did the shooting. The bullet did not, of course, "shoot through the engine".

The myth about the "hit anywhere on the body kills from shock" was part of the propaganda put out by Colt when they were trying to sell the AR-15 and the .223 caliber to the Army. They succeeded, which goes to show that then, as now, big lies make winners.

Jim
 
I have been warned of the amenic handgun calibers in two places. Both cases were for .45 autos and both the warnings were similar, but the animals differed.

".45 will bounce off a bear. You gotta have something bigger" - okay we were in SE Alaska, Prince of Wales Island, black bear country.

".45 will bounce off of feral hogs" - told to me in Texas.

Apparently, these animals must be wearing body armor.
 
Attend any IPSC match, and you're likely to hear at least one seasoned competitor claim a "double". Someone did a statistical analysis, and determined that not enough rounds had been fired in IPSC competition for there to ever have been a true double - yet I have seen a shooter claim two doubles in a single match. One guy, after having been notified that the RO and Match Director had both ruled his "double" a hit and a miss, was heard to lament, "Well, if you're going to penalize me for aiming . . ."
 
A .45 bullet not penetrate a hog? I was told that if a .45 auto were fired at a silk handkerchief, the bullet would not penetrate but would hit the handkerchief and fall to the ground. But this is only if the handkerchief is held at the upper corners and let dangle loose. And the handkerchief has to be pure silk.

Hell, maybe it's true - I never tried it.

Jim
 
[q]That any 1911 needs hundreds of dollars of modifications before it will be reliable and suitable for carry.[/q]
Yeah. It still won't work, even after all of that. :)

Had a guy argue with me vehemently that M16s were smooth-bores, hence the infamous tumbling bullets.

He's a cop!! He must be a gun expert.
 
Had a similiar accurance with a gun store employee concerning rifling in the Chinese, and Russian SKS barrels. He said the ONLY(!) difference between the two rifles as a whole was that the Russian barrel was rifled, and the Chinese barrel was not. I disagreed politely, and I also mentioned that the Chinese guns have stamped parts, and that the Russian parts were manufactured. He was mad that I even questioned his knowledge. That I didn't know what I was talking about. He had a couple of Chinese SKS's, but wasn't willing to prove me wrong, and him right on the barrel issue. No gun deals that day. Truth hurts sometimes.

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A "wopper" of sorts . . . actually appeared in a crime novel:

"Silently, he slipped the safety off his Glock revolver . . . "

I think this is a scream!
 
Cypselus, when silk was first discovered, many of the ancients thought that the weave of the threads was so tight that nothing could penetrate it, and it was used as armor. The idea didn't last too long, obviously.

"Hey, why is my arm lying on the gound? I'm wearing a silk armor coat! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!"

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Shoot straight & make big holes, regards, Richard at The Shottist's Center
 
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