The Best 9mm pistol?

One of the selling points of the Glock over the S&W autos when the Glock was being considered for police use was the Glock has about 30 parts and some of the S&W autos contain over 100 parts. That was from the book I am reading titled "Glock, the rise of Americas gun".

And to be fair I have never had a failure with an auto either. I am particular and like to keep my guns clean. I load good ammo and am careful about checking powder charges in each case.

I haven't sat down and did a parts count on a revolver in a long time. There was a gunwriter named Bob Milek that promoted the single action over a double action because of the lower parts count. He even had a couple of pictures of both designs broke completely down. I counted the parts and wouldn't you know it. The single action had about 3 more parts than the double action he presented.:rolleyes:

I am pretty certain if either a revolver or an auto is maintained and fed the best ammo you can get for them that they will be about as reliable as you could ever hope for.

I would like to hear about the two revolver issues you witnessed. And of course if you feel better served with your Sig 229 I sure am not to tell you that you wrong. Confidence in a weapon is all important.:)

And one more thing. I used to shoot falling plate matches with revolvers for the centerfire part. I would practice when I got to the shoot. My uncle ran it and we got to the range early to set up the plates. It was fun. Each time I went I would shoot 300-400 rounds of ammo in either my GP-100 or S&W model 19. I did this for a couple if years nearly every month. I never had one single breakdown, jam, stuck bullet or any other failure out of several thousand rounds fired from those two revolvers.
 
You know too little about handguns.

From your opinions....no one knows as much as you about handguns....

and like ratshooter....I have never had a revolver fail....and five of my 16 wheelguns are over 40 years old.....but my experience clearly is not as extensive as yours....having only been shooting for 50 years...

and I have lost count of how many autos I witnessed failing...
 
If you are shooting an auto the first thing you learn after the NRA big 4 is how to clear a failure. With a revolver you learn how to reload.
In my 45 years of handgun shooting I have had a lot of fail to feed, fail to fire and fail to eject with semi-autos. New and old "reliable" guns. I have never experienced a problem with any of my revolvers - never taken one to a smith for repairs or adjustment. I keep my guns cleaned and lubed - fanatically.
I have seen autos with chambers that were to large in diameter so that if you carried the gun with a round chambered it would slip beyond the reach of the firing pin yet it would fire just fine if you slammed a mag in and fired right away. I had a Colt combat commander the would not shoot two consecutive shots brand new with factory ball ammo. Even after all the burs were stoned off it would fail to return to battery often enough that I could not trust it.
I now own a CZ75B that seems to be reliable. I have used factory ammo and reloaded from maximum loads down to well below the starting load to find out if it would continue to function and has never missed a beat - yet. It is very accurate to around an inch sized groups at 25 yards with the best group at 5/8".
While watching others shooting three gun I have seen a lot of problems with autos in 40, 45 and 9mm. I have also seen a few people who had no problems at all.
The simple fact is that comparing revolvers to auto-loaders for failures the autos have many more failures than revolvers. They do carry more ammo but that won't matter if you need to defend yourself and the gun fails. You don't get a two second "time out" in a gun fight.
 
" ...in your opinion, what is the very best 9mm pistol?.... "

The very best at what?

There is no 9mm that is the very best at everything. Just like there is no wonder tool that does everything.

If I had to pick my best 9mm for punching paper, its going to be different to the best 9mm I'd pick for shooting steel and its likely going to change for most other purposes as well.
 
I've owned or shot many 9mm pistols. I have never owned or shot a Glock so no comments here about Glocks.

IMO maybe the finest 9mm pistol I have ever shot is the CZ75B or BD. Super reliable and very accurate.

Beretta 92fs is very reliable and decently accurate.

Ruger SR9c is very reliable and very accurate.

Sig 226 is a superb gun about on a par with a CZ but quite a different gun.

My $.015.
 
I don't have experience with the many 9mms available. I am generally a 1911 or double action guy but I bought my youngest son an M&P9 Full Size figuring since he is a youngster might as well get him a "state of the art" weapon (new fangled IMHO :)

That said, I shot it some also, and it has been 100% although I hate the trigger.

Now, having really got the striker fire bug, I bought a used XD9 compact and a new XD9 Service... I have had quite a few pistols and revolvers but I have to say these XDs are the only auto pistols that I have never had anything malfunction.

Difficult to move the sights for adjustment (if you need to)
 
I'm lucky enough to own all the rarest and finest 9mms from around the world. My favorites have got to be the Sig P210 (Swiss, of course) and Browning Hi Power (Belgian, of course). I just love the looks and the history. In the case of the P210, the incredible build quality and accuracy too. :cool:


 
If someone told me that I could trade any of my 9s for any 9 that I wanted, I'd probably go for a P210.

If there were some specific scenario for the gun's use, I might choose differently.
 
DA/SA? CZ 75. My personal favorite is my CZ 75 PCR


SA? 1911 in 9mm. My Dan Wesson Guardian is my current fave.



Of the guns I've never owned? Sig P210. Smooth action and dead nuts accurate.(ease of being accurate with this pistol is something to be considered)
 
I'm lucky enough to own all the rarest and finest 9mms from around the world.

I agree with your concept of what makes some 9mm pistols the world's rarest and finest. I'm just puzzled why there's not a Smith & Wesson Model 952 in your A-list collection...;)
 
I'm going to get a lot of crap for this but....... My Taurus pt111 9mm, then my Beretta px4 storm in 9mm and my absolute favorite is my Sarsilmaz K2P.
 
I agree with your concept of what makes some 9mm pistols the world's rarest and finest. I'm just puzzled why there's not a Smith & Wesson Model 952 in your A-list collection...

Yes sir, you got me there. It doesn't have the history of the other two I mentioned, but its an incredible pistol.

I love the 952. The PPC9 is slightly more accurate, but I love them both.

Here's a couple 952's and a couple PPC's, along with a few other Performance Center autos in other calibers.


 
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