The All new Taurus G3c

Based on how nice the G3 I bought recently is I am most likely going to get this as well.

Not anywhere near as nice as my Sig but easier on the wallet.
 
Still can't convince me its that more expensive to make it truly an ambi pistol, or just make it a straight striker fired and do away with the frame safety in this and age, I'm keeping my fingers crossed with the new CEO and improved quailty they will make a good showing
 
I prefer to pay more for a gun from a company with excellent customer service. I wish Taurus well and hope the G3 is a success, but my daughters TCP failed on its first range visit, had to go back to Taurus and they kept it 16 weeks, their customer service is abysmal. I'd buy a high point before I spend another penny with Taurus.
 
I have both a Taurus G2C and a Glock 26. I took them to the range together and alternated shooting them, putting about a box of ammo through each.

Their practical accuracy was the same and neither has ever malfunctioned for me.

They are pretty much the same size and can use the same holsters. Apparently the Taurus has a slightly longer grip, but I didn't notice it that day.

Choosing between the two, I preferred the Glock just slightly, because I liked the trigger better. I may have liked the Taurus sights better - I don't recall for sure.

I certainly wouldn't feel unarmed with my G2C. If the G3C is an improvement, it's probably a nice pistol.
 
I'll do a review once I get one, but yes, I am planning to use it as a carry gun. The new improvements seem to address the issues with the G2c, specifically the trigger, finish, and aftermarket sights availability.

I'm excited for this, I think it will be a very good contender for a CCW pistol that will put it on par with the $400-$600 pistols in the same size class.
 
Why buy a Taurus? Is it because that is all you can afford? Taurus quality has been terrible for years. I have said it many times - if someone GAVE me a Taurus, I would not want it...

Why risk it? No, 100% of the guns they make don't break - but they seem to have WAY higher of a percentage of problems, compared to other brands. IF money IS an issue.... When you can buy an M&P Shield for $250 or less, WHY buy a Taurus? Don't like the Shield? There are still other, higher quality firearms in the $300 range. Hell, the Beretta APX is around the $300 mark if you look hard enough online.

If you REALLY WANT to buy a Taurus, and you know what you are doing - I GUESS, go ahead.... Knock yourself out.

But, too many gun newbies fall for Taurus products... They walk in the door and see the price of the Taurus guns compared to everything else. Then, the know nothing sales person (usually at a big box chain store, because a good % of real gun stores will not even carry the brand) will tell the newbie how good the gun is.

Then, after the 1st range trip, they post at a gun forum, asking for help. And by the time they pay for shipping (in the past, Taurus refused to cover shipping - not sure about 2020), the gun was no longer cheap (it's over $50 to ship a gun back to the manufacturer).... Then, be prepared to wait forever to get the gun back...

And, how many times have I see posts on various forums of guns being returned by Taurus with NOTHING done to them?

Even the various CEOs can't change things, no matter what they promised...

People point to the newest 2020 CEO as "turning the company around." But, look at Taurus history:

Back in 2010 - Someone quotes an article about how the new CEO of Taurus (Mark Kressler) will help improve quality... : https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408285&highlight=taurus+quality


I then did an internet search of the CEO prior to Kressler. His name was Bob Morrison, and he was CEO in the earlier 2000s. I couldn't find even ONE article where he said he would improve quality... Go figure... :D


In 2012, the Taurus CEO, Mark Kressler, promises "new products, better customer relations and higher quality": https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/taurus-no-more-bull/


But then in 2014, that CEO (Mark Kresser,) was fired... He was a CEO who had "led the charge at Taurus to tighten quality control."

https://www.guns.com/news/2014/07/3...ly-fired-its-former-after-company-acquisition


And, his replacement CEO plans to repair the Taurus reputation in 2014 (Anthony Acitelli): https://www.shootingsportsretailer.com/stories/interview-taurus-usa-ceo-anthony-acitelli


In 2015, that same CEO (Anthony Acitelli) said: "the agreement is a step to rebuild the brand’s credibility". He was referring to a class action lawsuit about defective guns...

https://www.guns.com/news/2015/12/21/taurus-ready-to-rebuild-credibility-but-hurdles-still-ahead


Furthermore: Acitelli said: "A company that stands behind its product and is willing to do the right thing for the customer actually gives us credibility."

https://mhhlaw.net/taurus-ready-to-rebuild-credibility-but-hurdles-still-ahead/


Acitelli eventually left, and in 2017, the new CEO (David Blenker) said: “We have a very dedicated work force that is committed to making Taurus the top brand and I’m excited to be leading the team with this vision.

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/10/taurus-usa-promotes-david-blenker-to-ceo/#axzz6PpJLkOTy


But, in Jan 2020, David Blecker leaves, and he is replaced by Bret Vorhees. Here, Vorhees, the new Taurus CEO, vows to improve quality in April 2020:

https://forum.mcarbo.com/t/taurus-letter-to-customers/9170



Yea, it's gonna happen.... After all these years, Taurus is "better."
 
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And look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw&feature=emb_logo
(this is just, so, so sad...)



Paired with this:

Defective Guns in The US: A Dark Tale With No Recalls


https://www.johnuustal.com/blog/12/defective-guns-not-covered-by-u.s.-product-defect-laws/


And, people have died....


How Defective Guns Became the Only Product That Can’t Be Recalled

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ecame-the-only-product-that-can-t-be-recalled


News of the settled lawsuit:

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit...rop-fire-gun-defect-class-action-settles-38m/

https://thomasjhenrylaw.com/blog/prod



Once again... You want a Taurus, why?
 
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I personally have purchased 2 Taurus firearms in the last year. I bought a 627 Tracker 357 revolver and a TX22 pistol. The TX22 is a blast to shoot. It is very ergonomic, accurate, reliable and it has a great trigger. The 627 revolver has been very good too. No complaints. As for the new G3C I would be interested but I already have few guns to fill that role.
 
I have owned three different PT-111 G2s over the years and they were good guns. I did not have a single problem out of any of them. But as stated before the 3GCs and G2s are slightly improved PT-111 G2s. The G3C does intrigue me but not enough to buy one. I just don't see it dethroning my FNS 9c(s) which i deem a far superior product. The FNS 9c is, IMO, the best pistol in it's respective role. By far.

But I do hope the G3c does well. Looks to be a winner.
 
Jagrbomb said:
Why buy a Taurus? Is it because that is all you can afford? Taurus quality has been terrible for years. I have said it many times - if someone GAVE me a Taurus, I would not want it...
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It is okay to dislike a brand, but understand that others have had different experiences and hold different opinions.

In the last decade, I have sent new Beretta, Colt, Rock Island, Sig (x2) and S&W pistols back to the factory. I have also had parts service that did not require returning the pistol involving Ruger and Walther. Some of the customer service was superb and some was mediocre.

What really matters is the quality of product a company is producing today and the level of customer service it is currently providing.
 
I agree, I just purchased a Ruger LCP 2 which is known to be very reliable, however mine was a lemon. Every mag I would have 1-2 failures to extract.

To Rugers credit, I sent it off to them with a prepaid label from my house and got it back a week later directly to my house.

With my Gen 4 Glock 19, As I got it when they were first released, I had issues with recoil springs (They sent me the updated version, twice), and the ejector, which they would not send me as it had to be replaced by a glock certified armorer, so I ended up having to purchase it on my own and replace it myself as it was less expensive than paying an armorer.

All companies have issues, Taurus may have had more than others in the past, But with the PT111/G2/G2c/G3/G3c series, it seems most have had very good experiences and excellent reliability.
 
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If they actually fixed the trigger with the G3C, it becomes more interesting. Dislike the long sweep and extreme rear reset on the G2.
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I'm hopeful that the trigger improvements are as good as Taurus claims. I own a G2, along with several similar pistols from more respected manufacturers, and the trigger was the only that prevented it from being my ideal carry gun. It broke so far back that it was difficult for both me (large hands) and my wife (small to medium hands) to manipulate without pulling low left when firing at a brisk pace. I love the idea of having quality pistols at affordable prices and would like to see Taurus succeed in this area.
 
I suffered from the same thing with my G2C and sold it. Otherwise I loved the gun. Looking at the videos on the G3 it looks to me like the trigger still breaks too far back to be any kind of improvement.
 
wmg1299 said:
I'm hopeful that the trigger improvements are as good as Taurus claims. I own a G2, along with several similar pistols from more respected manufacturers, and the trigger was the only that prevented it from being my ideal carry gun. It broke so far back that it was difficult for both me (large hands) and my wife (small to medium hands) to manipulate without pulling low left when firing at a brisk pace. I love the idea of having quality pistols at affordable prices and would like to see Taurus succeed in this area.
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This looks like it solves the issue, however will remove the double strike capability. I personally think double strike capability is silly, unless you're running an under-powered striker spring.

Now, it would of been genius if they had a decocker on it to give it a longer heavier first shot pull for carry, if you wanted to use it.

Trigger solution: https://www.keeptinkering.com/shop
 
The Taurus G3c is in stock in my local guns shops, but due to high prices associated with COVID-19 and market demand, it is not a bargain. It sells for $329. The G2c - pre-COVID sold for $189-$239. The G3c should be priced comparably once the market returns to normal.
 
allenomics said:
The Taurus G3c is in stock in my local guns shops, but due to high prices associated with COVID-19 and market demand, it is not a bargain. It sells for $329. The G2c - pre-COVID sold for $189-$239. The G3c should be priced comparably once the market returns to normal.
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That is really high, I've seen it for $250-$260 which is on par with the G3.
 
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