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The 6.8 mm Remington SPC
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Well, you kind of can and do. I don't see how you could get ambushed in a desert ...
You my friend have obviously never spent any time in a desert. After rereading your quote I'm thinking you've never even seen a desert.
When somebody gets .308 power or better out of an intermediate carbine cartridge, that will be the money maker.
The 6.8 is still an intermediate cartridge. So it should be expected to have intermediate performance, its just at the upper end of the scale it seems from all the info presented here.
The 6.8 is still an intermediate cartridge. So it should be expected to have intermediate performance, its just at the upper end of the scale it seems from all the info presented here.
Yes, it is a very interesting cartridge.i was sure that the 30 rem AR was going to be a hit. Im sad it will never be.
Florida is somewhat lacking in deserts... but it has beaches. You can find sand dunes on some Florida beaches that will hide people. Or, people can dig into the sand at a Florida beach, and create a small berm that looks like a dune, behind which they can hide.
Deserts where the US has been engaged in conflicts, however, have larger dunes... or deep arroyos (although they call them wadis in most of the places our guys fight)... or hills, ridges, mountains...
The areas around bases may be very flat. By the nature of guerilla warfare, though, the bad guys often dress like the locals, and may get very close before doing anything that gives them away. So, even with long sight lines, the bad guy may be closer than comfortable.
Distances where conflict happen can vary greatly; as somebody else said, it's not a video game map.
This will be my last post in this thread. For one thing, the infantry guys have started showing up, and they can carry the argument better than the aviator. For another, the OP is giving indications that he really isn't interested in real answers to his supposition.
Deserts where the US has been engaged in conflicts, however, have larger dunes... or deep arroyos (although they call them wadis in most of the places our guys fight)... or hills, ridges, mountains...
The areas around bases may be very flat. By the nature of guerilla warfare, though, the bad guys often dress like the locals, and may get very close before doing anything that gives them away. So, even with long sight lines, the bad guy may be closer than comfortable.
Distances where conflict happen can vary greatly; as somebody else said, it's not a video game map.
This will be my last post in this thread. For one thing, the infantry guys have started showing up, and they can carry the argument better than the aviator. For another, the OP is giving indications that he really isn't interested in real answers to his supposition.
Don't give a rats about my post count or what you guys think.
6.8(brass) - http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2SB33269-1.html
7.62x39(brass) - http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2SB33224-1.html
I'd say that's a pretty big difference. Reloading doesn't count because not everyone does it, cheapest factory brass vs brass.
I never said that the AR couldn't be used a 500 yards, I said that I wouldn't use it. If you miss because because it's not a paper target and it moves then you just gave your position away. I don't want any maybes if my life is on the line. Once again your saying that at 500 yards you can hit a moving target that's returning fire at you?
For everyone that keeps saying I can easily do that at x amount of yards, address my original reply:
Very easily make lethal hits at 1000 yards as in bipod only? If your using a lead sled and take 10 minutes to figure out the adjustments, unless their taking a nap I don't see how you could "very easily" do that. Very true that you know how to or you don't but a 168 grain .308 to the leg and a 55 grain 5.56 to the leg would be a pretty big difference. It would definitely decrease the margin of error and I want as little a margin as possible no matter how good I am(ego in combat=death). If you disagree then a .50 BMG wouldn't be any better then a 5.56 because your either good or your not right?
Funny how you completely ignore my logical arguments and then try to nit pick at what I'm saying.
Also, being in Iraq with some fat loser with an IQ of 20 in charge of you and being alone are 2 different things. I don't know about you but I wouldn't go charging into a city full of enemies. Maybe you've never seen a desert. So your telling me that in Iraq/Afghanistan every inch of that country is completely urban? There's no open terrain?
6.8(brass) - http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2SB33269-1.html
7.62x39(brass) - http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2SB33224-1.html
I'd say that's a pretty big difference. Reloading doesn't count because not everyone does it, cheapest factory brass vs brass.
I never said that the AR couldn't be used a 500 yards, I said that I wouldn't use it. If you miss because because it's not a paper target and it moves then you just gave your position away. I don't want any maybes if my life is on the line. Once again your saying that at 500 yards you can hit a moving target that's returning fire at you?
For everyone that keeps saying I can easily do that at x amount of yards, address my original reply:
Very easily make lethal hits at 1000 yards as in bipod only? If your using a lead sled and take 10 minutes to figure out the adjustments, unless their taking a nap I don't see how you could "very easily" do that. Very true that you know how to or you don't but a 168 grain .308 to the leg and a 55 grain 5.56 to the leg would be a pretty big difference. It would definitely decrease the margin of error and I want as little a margin as possible no matter how good I am(ego in combat=death). If you disagree then a .50 BMG wouldn't be any better then a 5.56 because your either good or your not right?
Funny how you completely ignore my logical arguments and then try to nit pick at what I'm saying.
Also, being in Iraq with some fat loser with an IQ of 20 in charge of you and being alone are 2 different things. I don't know about you but I wouldn't go charging into a city full of enemies. Maybe you've never seen a desert. So your telling me that in Iraq/Afghanistan every inch of that country is completely urban? There's no open terrain?
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Closed, for a complete lack of civility by a very few.
Closed, for a complete lack of civility by a very few.
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