Terrorists 101
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BreacherUp!
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It has been widely reported, as well as stated by UBL himself, that the kalishnikov he carries each day ( and the one you always see beside him in videos) was taken from a Russian soldier whom he killed.
UBL did some fighting, but it was his money and engineering equipment that gained favor with the mujaheeds.
Honestly, terrorism is much more complex an issue than reading a fewm links and studying "Terrorism 101" on a forum.
UBL did some fighting, but it was his money and engineering equipment that gained favor with the mujaheeds.
Honestly, terrorism is much more complex an issue than reading a fewm links and studying "Terrorism 101" on a forum.
Breacher,
Yes it is and I would encourage anybody to actually study their enemy before saying things like what I mentioned on my list.
You study your enemy in order to find his weaknesses so that you may exploit them. You study your enemy in order to find his strengths so that you may negate them. You study your enemy in order to divine his intentions so that you may foil them.
How is it that anybody (particularly our Commander in Chief) could not grasp this point? In the entire history of warfare, nobody has ever won merely by "just killing as many of them as possible". You defeat an enemy by destroying his ability to fight.
Looks like I need to take out a little more trash.
"Converting them to Christianity will bring peace"
This would be a huge recruiting tool for the enemy because it would convince the average Muslim that their faith is under direct attack.
"You kill the leaders, you kill the organization"
Kill the Hydra by beheading it? Simply not possible. The enemy's leadership and manpower are being constantly replenished. The only way to destroy the organization is to kill and capture them quicker than they are being created.
Yes it is and I would encourage anybody to actually study their enemy before saying things like what I mentioned on my list.
You study your enemy in order to find his weaknesses so that you may exploit them. You study your enemy in order to find his strengths so that you may negate them. You study your enemy in order to divine his intentions so that you may foil them.
How is it that anybody (particularly our Commander in Chief) could not grasp this point? In the entire history of warfare, nobody has ever won merely by "just killing as many of them as possible". You defeat an enemy by destroying his ability to fight.
Looks like I need to take out a little more trash.
"Converting them to Christianity will bring peace"
This would be a huge recruiting tool for the enemy because it would convince the average Muslim that their faith is under direct attack.
"You kill the leaders, you kill the organization"
Kill the Hydra by beheading it? Simply not possible. The enemy's leadership and manpower are being constantly replenished. The only way to destroy the organization is to kill and capture them quicker than they are being created.
The Koran is not the only book that Muslims use. You have the Koran which are the words/revelations of Allah given to his Prophet and the Sunnah of the Prophet/Ahadis which are the actions of the Prophet on Earth. So when we are simply given quotes form the Koran to prove this and that about Islam it might amount to the equivelant of a curveball?????
reading A book today I came across a statement I have heard before...
Islam is a complete and completed religion. So does that meant that Islam in the eyes of its mainstream theologians is a finished product???????
I also think that there are many other Muslims who are in the diverse places of the earth also dont know much about Islam aside from the Koran or from what they have been read from the Koran while being raised in cultures different from the Middle East. Arabic is the mother tounge of Islam, I know you can buy translations but sometimes stuff is lost in translation. There are probably other Muslims who beleive the Ahadis is optional.
There are also some Muslim Theologians who beleive that both the Koran and the Ahadis have no diffrences and are of equal importance???
I think we are at a disadvantage when it comes to dealing with Islamic nations. We dont fully understand them, I know I dont but I am trying to achieve an understanding of Islam.
reading A book today I came across a statement I have heard before...
Islam is a complete and completed religion. So does that meant that Islam in the eyes of its mainstream theologians is a finished product???????
I also think that there are many other Muslims who are in the diverse places of the earth also dont know much about Islam aside from the Koran or from what they have been read from the Koran while being raised in cultures different from the Middle East. Arabic is the mother tounge of Islam, I know you can buy translations but sometimes stuff is lost in translation. There are probably other Muslims who beleive the Ahadis is optional.
There are also some Muslim Theologians who beleive that both the Koran and the Ahadis have no diffrences and are of equal importance???
I think we are at a disadvantage when it comes to dealing with Islamic nations. We dont fully understand them, I know I dont but I am trying to achieve an understanding of Islam.
I do agree with most of the thread about the underlying causes of terrorism. I believe Bush is a f-ing moron. But I would have voted for him back when he was elected. I felt noone running deserved my vote since I don't trust politicians who hide behind smear campaigns, which unfortunately is about all of them.
Yet I do believe that taking down saddam husein, though not our first priority, was the right move. No matter the casualties from the insurgency, more people would be dead now if he was still in power. Watch the A&E Biography of hussein and his sons. These people only know killing as a way of life, and they took extreme pleasure in doing it in as many ways as they could think of. You do not get much more evil than those three. The only reason they weren't as bad as hitler is because hitler had more resources. Although I daresay, we gave hussein about as much time as he could ask for to try to challenge hitler's title as all time ****-tard.
The iraqi war is and would have been necessary. It should have been taken care of ten years ago, but iraq is better off now, even with the insurgency. And the iraqi people are starting to rise against it or so I hear. Osama started the whole mess for the most part, he should have been taken care of by now.
What is more disturbing to me is that I have heard rumors, and they are only rumors as far as I know, that we (that is the government) actually knows where he is yet we won't take him out. The reasoning behind that is if he dies, his second in command, his brother-in-law I think it is will take over. And he is supposed to be more calculating and able than osama. He would be worse in osama's position of authority than osama is supposedly.
But for the most part, this thread is on the disturbing mark.
Yet I do believe that taking down saddam husein, though not our first priority, was the right move. No matter the casualties from the insurgency, more people would be dead now if he was still in power. Watch the A&E Biography of hussein and his sons. These people only know killing as a way of life, and they took extreme pleasure in doing it in as many ways as they could think of. You do not get much more evil than those three. The only reason they weren't as bad as hitler is because hitler had more resources. Although I daresay, we gave hussein about as much time as he could ask for to try to challenge hitler's title as all time ****-tard.
The iraqi war is and would have been necessary. It should have been taken care of ten years ago, but iraq is better off now, even with the insurgency. And the iraqi people are starting to rise against it or so I hear. Osama started the whole mess for the most part, he should have been taken care of by now.
What is more disturbing to me is that I have heard rumors, and they are only rumors as far as I know, that we (that is the government) actually knows where he is yet we won't take him out. The reasoning behind that is if he dies, his second in command, his brother-in-law I think it is will take over. And he is supposed to be more calculating and able than osama. He would be worse in osama's position of authority than osama is supposedly.
But for the most part, this thread is on the disturbing mark.
Big jack, I never heard any of our political leaders say they would happily die if only they could slaughter a pack of arabs.
Noone, when did we ever support the russians in Afghanistan? Old bin laden didnt mind us bein involved over there as long as his mujas were shootin down hind 24's with American made stinger missiles.E
I think the bigger problem is that a huge part of the muslim population is illiterate and so have no choice but to believe what people like bin laden tell them about thier religion. I think bin laden always disapears when the fight comes cuz he would rather convince other people that its a good thing to die. He dont believe it himself.
Noone, when did we ever support the russians in Afghanistan? Old bin laden didnt mind us bein involved over there as long as his mujas were shootin down hind 24's with American made stinger missiles.E
I think the bigger problem is that a huge part of the muslim population is illiterate and so have no choice but to believe what people like bin laden tell them about thier religion. I think bin laden always disapears when the fight comes cuz he would rather convince other people that its a good thing to die. He dont believe it himself.
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Eghad, I really enjoy your posts, well thought out and stated.
As to whether we can win this war, we are and we will, but I don't agree with this war or any since WWII.
Eghad, I really enjoy your posts, well thought out and stated.
As to whether we can win this war, we are and we will, but I don't agree with this war or any since WWII.
Bigjack , I agree to a certain point. I dont believe Bush called Cheney in 99 and said c'mon lets go start us a war. We did not choose this war it was forced on us. Iraq is just part of it, just like the CBI theater was a part of WWII. Bin laden and his boys chose this war. I would still like an answer NOONE. When did we support the sovs in Afghanistan, and why was bin laden not up in arms about our involvement there then? E