Tell me how to accurize a Glock.

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The only mod that will increase the accuracy of your gun is a fitted match bbl. Of course you need to develop loads for it.

There are several mods that can help you shoot better. Better sights; polishing the trigger bar, connector, striker tab, safety plunger; swapping for the 3.5lb connector (and polishing it); reduced power striker spring; increased power trigger return spring (I yet have to try this, some people claim that it could cause problems if used together with reduced power striker spring).

Stronger recoil spring and heavy guide rod (preferably tungsten) will help tame the recoil.

It isn't and it's never going to be a target gun. But the mods help a lot in speed games.
 
Has anyone had their trigger modified by Glock Works? Another interesting thing that I have found. Glockmeister claims to sell original Glock 3.5 lb connectors, but I read on another web site that Glock does not export 3.5 connectors to the US for liability reasons. What gives? I read that Glock Works and other manufacturers make the 3.5 lb connectors. I read a post by a gentleman describing the trigger pull on a Glock. " It is like operating a stapler." And that is exactly how my Glock trigger feels. I love my 30, but the trigger has to be modified in some way or another.
Thanks, Sling Shot
 
All my GLOCKS Shoot 1" at 25 yards, but when I go to take the target down( so I can prove how good I am) I wake up.It's a great dream while it lasts :D
 
Buy a 1911 and put GLOCK on the slide with a magic marker. :D Sorry, couldn't resist. I'd try a new match grade barrel first.
 
target shooting & competition shooting?

what exactly do you mean sling shot?

different competitions require different levels of accuraccy, and a glock may or may not be appropriate for some games.

IDPA & GSSF are both geared toward stock guns.

At any rate, if you want to blow a wad of money on a new barrel I'm not going to stop you but is it really money well spent?

Perhaps you might also want to ask the same question on www.glocktalk.com go to the general competition section & post the same question.
 
Slingshot - The $2000 thing was a joke. It was a jab at 1911 shooters who put $2000 into their gun and then are happy that it is accurate etc. At that much money, you better hope you got something out of it!
As I said, a hardfitted barrel from Barsto will give you 1 inch groups, and a competition trigger package from Glockworks and a nice set of sights will help you become more accurate as well so that you can keep up with the Glock.


And....


NO, I was neither kidding, nor lying, nor typo-ing about 1 inch groups at 25 yards. I didn't think it was that big of deal. So, cops can't do it? Who cares, cops, by majority, can't shoot their way out of a wet paper bag. Both my Glock 32 and my Glock 30 will hit one inch groups at 25 yards offhand. That is a STOCK Glock with night sights. Not even with a trigger job or anything else. Glocks are extremely accurate. Some people just can't shoot them, or they willingly believe the myth that they are not accurate.


Very few people are skilled enough to shoot a Glock as accuratly as it can be shot. That is why the best upgrade for your Glock is another case of ammo and some more time on the range. Possibly some instruction in how to shoot better would help some people too.
 
I think most Glocks are very accurate, they have a very good slide to barrel fit and the factory barrel is excellent. The thing is they are difficult to shoot to their full accuracy potential because of the trigger... you really have to get used to it. Once I do, I can really brag about my groups, but if I don't practice for a while and spoil myself with a lighter/crisp trigger it takes some time again.
 
A Glock will not even shoot 1" while in a rest, let alone off hand. I don't know of any other gun, in defensive calibers(>9mm), that will shoot 1" at 25yds in a rest or clamp. The off hand deal is BS. Maybe a 22 match pistol but not a Glock. They're good but let's be realistic.

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Stock Glock 17's and 22's both have been ransom rested at 1 inch groups at 25 yards, and 2 inch groups at 50. These models are NOT known to be the most accurate of Glocks, so others could do better.

A mag recently had an article of a guy that took a stock Glock 21 and wanted to see just how accurate a stock Glock is since there are so many myths that they are inaccurate. He was getting 2.5 inch groups at 50 yards with open sights. So, he went to optics to see how accurate the gun was, since he knew he was limited by his eyes. A STOCK GLOCK with optics was printing 1.75 inch groups at 50 yards. That was from a bench. The point was to show that a stock Glock can do it if YOU can do it.

Yes, stock Glocks are very accurate. Some people just aren't skilled enough to shoot them to their potential, so they blame the gun. Typical.



There is a saying by a mentor of mine that goes like this:

"Don't judge the rest of the world by your own ****ty standards. Just because YOU can't do something does not mean it can't be done and that there are not people out there who can."


Just because YOU guys can't shoot a Glock as well as it can be shot is no reason to blame the gun. Some of us can do better and certainly the GUN can do better.


I just printed a 1 inch group at 25 yards with my Glock 30 this week. That was offhand, and it was only a hair smaller than the usual 1.5 inch groups I get from it on a average day (at 25 yards of course). That is a STOCK GLOCK 30.


Some Glock models are more accurate than others. The Glock 30 and the Glock 34/35 and well as all the Glock .357 models tend to be most accurate models. The mini Glocks are also known to be extremely accurate, if you can shoot them well. My STOCK GLOCK 27 hits sub 2 inch groups at 25 yards very easily, and I don't even shoot it that much. It might be able to shoot better than I do with it.

If you are not shooting at least close to one inch groups at 25 yards with these models then either you got a rare lemon, or you are just not a good enough shooter and you need to work on your skills.


This is just discussing STOCK GLOCKs. And, admittedly, not all the Glock models are as accurate as the ones listed above. A few (very few) of my Glocks have needed custom barrels to get up to my accuracy expectations.

I also have some Glocks with fitted barrels that get 1 inch groups at 25 yards very easily. Some fitted barrels are not as imporessive as others and some of them get much worse groups. Not all Glock models and not all custom barrel makers are equal.
I have tried just about every barrel maker, and been disapointed by most that they are not much noticably more accurate than the stock barrel that came with the gun.

Heed my words, as they are borne from experience and many MANY hundreds of dollars in experimenting:

If you are going to go for accuracy, get a fitted Barsto barrel. It will easily give you 1 inch groups at 25 yards
. Go to www.barsto.com. Don't waste your money on anything else. This is just my own experience of course.


Also, the trigger job by GLOCKWORKS is superb. I do my own trigger jobs now just as well, but if you want a top notch job get a Glockworks trigger job. It makes for a VERY light and smooth trigger, although I have not found it to really make me more accurate than a stock trigger because I have been shooting the stock trigger for so many years.

Lastly, the only thing you really need on a STOCK GLOCK is night sights or some other kind of sights that are more precise than the ball-and-cup sights that come with a standard Glock. Those sights generally will not be precise enough to let you shoot the gun to it's potential, although they are fast for close up work.

I hope this helps.






[This message has been edited by DerGlockenpooper (edited June 16, 2000).]
 
Red Bull and DerGlockenpooper - a few questions: 1) How many shots are in your groups? 2) What is the average group size over, say, 5 groups? 3) Do you swear that you are shooting these 1" groups off-hand or or are they off sandbags?

I started to be diplomatic here and say "I don't doubt that you can shoot 1" groups off hand at 25 yds." But that would be a lie, I do doubt it. We need proof.

You do considerably better off-hand than the testers of the Model 30 in the Sept. '97 issue of American Rifleman did from sandbags. ???
 
What good is it to have an inherently accurate gun if you can't shoot it worth a d@mn due to a horrible trigger?
 
You guys are full of crap. I don't believe for a second that your guns shoot 1" off hand at 25 yds. And this isn't a cop thing you piece of dung. You are lying and you know it so kiss my kiester punk!

I am glad that you think everyone is so stupid to think that your shooting stance is more precise than a ransom rest.

This is the problem with internet postings. People can tell flat out lies and never have to pay the fiddler.
 
Red bull if you ever make it off the left coast to the south let me know because I would love to see your Glock perform that miracle.

Oh yeah that cop statement you made, I never said anything about the shooting abilities of cops. All I said is that you are full of crap and you are. Just so you know there smart guy a former IPSC state champ works at my dept and I promise he can smoke you with any weapon. Oh yeah and he is not a liar either.
 
AUG, at ease. No need to call a person a lier without proof. Your from the South. You know calling someone a lier is a serious matter here. Are you SURE he can't shoot 1" offhand? I sure as hell can't do it, but I'm a rifleman, not a pistolman. I don't doubt it can't be done though. Those custom 1911s do it all the time and, in the hand of a pro, DO do it all the time. Your ISPC state champ as done several times. Now that engineering has made leaps and bounds and all the new technology we have, I know that pistols and rifles are getting to the point that stock is almost like custom now. It IS in the shooter more than the gun. How many times has Jeff Cooper, Sheriff Wilson, Mr Ayoob, etc have to say that before people listen? I can take my friends Winchester 70 (stock) and he can take my Sauer or my Weatherby and I can beat him every time. When we get to pistols, he takes a old S&W ( don't even get me STARTED about that sorry company) and whips my butt and I'm using my Colt Gold Cup. Skill, gentleman, skill.

Guess I need to start working with my pistols more....

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I did not intend to call anyone a liar either.
I based my judgement on facts. I have in my hands copies of over 15 different reviews done on the Glock 30 by magazines since 1997. Not a single one of them shot at or under an inch while on a bench rest at 25yds. most were in the 1.75 to 2" range. The off hand results averaged about 2.5". This was all with commercial ammunition. You can say a lot of things on the internet but for me to repeat it I need to know it's a fact. These articles are fact.

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AUG - Since you don't publish your email address, I have to say this here in public. While I agree with what you say in essence, I strongly disagree with how you say it. Member bashing on TFL is one of the few things we don't allow at all. Calling members liars is not the same as doubting what they say and wanting proof. Please consider rewording your posts. You don't need to remove the doubt, just the name calling and invitations.
 
Another thing about the i-net is that people can make accusations without the fear of repercussions. Real easy to call me a liar over the net. Oh well. I could scan my groups, but that would not help because you would accuse me of doing them from 10 yards. Fine, I have nothing to prove, I don't care if you believe me. I am just trying to tell you it is possible because I do it. I am an IPSC shooter also, but none the less, I am not the best in the world and I could get smoked by a good one (I would not argue with that). I don't care, I never claimed to be a great shooter. I just claimed that a Glock can be shot very accuratly in the hands of someone skilled with it. But, what I do know is that my Glocks, a couple of them, STOCK can shoot 1 inch groups at 25 yards from offhand.

I think thou dost protest too much. I mean, there is no need to get all upset about this. If you don't believe me then I can accept that and there is no more I can do to prove I am telling the truth. If you are going to be butthurt because I am a good shot and maybe that hurts your ego because you can't do the same, then that is no concern of mine. My only point is, if you are not shooting at least close to one inch groups with a Glock then you are probably not shooting it as well as it could be shot and YOU are the one that needs "accurizing", not the Glock. I shoot a Glock trigger great, and it is a heck of a lot better than a revolver trigger.
If people can shoot revolvers that well in DA (and they can easily) then why not a Glock trigger? Glock triggers are pretty darn good compared to some out there. It is just an aquired taste.
 
Boys...boys !! I have a .32 ISSF pistol that will do 1" 10 shot groups at 25m ...OK!

I feel a Davy Crocket type contest comin' on...that will settle it once and for all ;)

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I love my Glocks; prefer them over my Gold Cups, any day. I shoot tens of thousands of rounds a year through my Glocks; can drive tennis balls out to fifty or sixty yards, off the bench.

I sure would like to see somebody shoot consistent 1" groups of more than two shots per group, measured center-to-center, at 25 yds. I might be willing to fly somewhere to see such a fete.

I'd think that anybody that could shoot 1" groups offhand, with a stock Glock at 25 yds. would be appearing on tv any day now, so I guess I'll just keep watching the shooting programs on tv, rather than paying for a plane ticket.

1" or not, I still believe that Glocks are the most durable, best-made and most accurate guns For The Money available in the Known Universe. I know that my Glocks will shoot just fine in conditions that would result in my Gold Cups' being just a rusty club.
 
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