Teen drawn on/approached by gangbanger- disarms and punches to submission

As an aside, this is a GREAT example as to why having a gun protects you from absolutely nothing if you choose to close within striking distance of an individual.
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Actually it's a great example of "posturing" (Read Dave Grossman's book "On Killing").

To be blunt.

Gun-boy wasn't ready to go all the way to "maim/kill" (which is strangely reassuring) but since firearms don't have a "less lethal" setting he was stuck in a feedback loop.

Skateboard-boy, on the other hand, had plenty of non-lethal on hand and a willingness to employ it immediately.

Mentality, not tools.
 
Not true.. they didn't even try to hold the guy down, he was laying there covering himself and they were beating him. You mean to tell me you think you would get a pat on the back for that?
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You must have been watching an entirely different video than I was. The guy with the gun was struggling to get to his feet the entire time. He was NOT simply covering himself. As long as he keeps moving and struggling, he's a threat and they had every right to keep pummeling him.

I guess they should have helped him to his feet and walked him over to his weapon so he could resume his attack?

Sweet baby Jebus.
 
Cope's Dist wrote:
I imagine the guy with the phone figured it was better to record it all in case they needed proof of anything in the future.
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howwie wrote:
It was smart for the guy to record for evidence sake...
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I will remember what good friends you guys are while I am recovering from my injuries in a hospital bed while this GB waits to go on trial!

Scott
 
I'm sure a few skateboarders can easily outrun some fat gang member. They had his gun, all they had to do was get up and leave. You guys can play stupid if you want, but we both know there would have been no risk at all if they had simply taken his gun and left.

Keep in mind that I agree 100% that he should have been beaten 5x harder than he was.. I'm just talking legalities here.

You must have been watching an entirely different video than I was. The guy with the gun was struggling to get to his feet the entire time. He was NOT simply covering himself. As long as he keeps moving and struggling, he's a threat and they had every right to keep pummeling him.

I guess they should have helped him to his feet and walked him over to his weapon so he could resume his attack?

Sweet baby Jebus.
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You still haven't detailed which laws they broke. Also, why on earth should they leave? They weren't doing anything wrong! The gangbanger initiated the entire event and each and every person there was legally justified in doing whatever was necessary to force him to submit. Again, no laws broken.
 
I'm sorry if someone pulls a gun like that in a threatening manner all bets are off. The skateboarder did a good job, to me it didn't look like he instigated it, at one point he tried to skate away from the situation on his board, but that good for nothin stain on society gang banger proceeded to get physical. I know it may have looked bad the beating part, and maybe it was a little excessive, but whose to say if you get off of him that he's not gonna go for the gun, then it turns in to another struggle with could turn deadly. BG ****** off about you disarming him and giving him a whooping could turn bad if you let off of him could turn bad in an instant. and his other friends had every right to jump in and throw a few of their own blows, the gang banger (or wanna be) pulled a gun on them, putting their life on the line. Anytime someone pulls a gun on a human being in a threatening manner like that whether they plan on using it or not is still a threat, you don't know what their intentions are.

I know many of us being gun owners, and most of us on here holding CCW's might have handled this situation differently, but this kid is at the age where he can't legally carry, much less own a handgun so he used the tools at his disposal, his fists.
 
gang banger boy is lucky that the other guy didn't have a knife. then he woulda been done. I couldn't believe he kept getting CLOSER to the other kid as he had the gun on him. next to his own head none the less. idiot. got what he deserved.
I agree as well that if you are at the business end of a gun you are a dead man walkin.
 
My heart is racing watching that video. Props to the skateboarder, but man is he lucky to have survived the encounter. I feel for the skater though, now he has to watch his back for the rest of his life. You know the cholo gang banger is going to seek retaliation, and there are a bunch of crazier idiot gang bangers than him. I would have loved to seen the end of it all. Did the cops show up? Did the gang banger go to jail? What happened to the gang banger's buddy?

Great vid.
 
I'm just kind of shocked that people would try to defend a guy who assaulted somebody with firearm because he got his butt whipped over it.

It's easy to sit in front of your computer screen and critique what somebody else did when a gun was stuck in his face. Real easy. I got robbed once by a guy with a gun who demanded that I empty my pockets. I didn't empty my pockets, but I started talking to him, so he had to get my wallet out of my pocket himself. The whole time I was looking for an opportunity to get the gun without getting shot but once he seemed satisfied with the wallet, I decided to let it go. It was a matter of opportunity and timing. But it's not in my nature to submit or to comply.
 
From what I see... The SB's just clammed up about the gun one of them now had and left the BG to the care of the "blue shirt" that walked out of the building. Now they got a gun to get in trouble with later.
Brent
 
That gang banger was sooo lucky . If that had been half the CCW guys on this site im sure he would be dead . & a skate board can get pretty bad so like i said..
that dumbass is lucky .
 
The SB's just clammed up about the gun one of them now had and left the BG to the care of the "blue shirt" that walked out of the building. Now they got a gun to get in trouble with later.
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I just watched the video again and actually when "blue shirt" is trying to break it up at least one of the kids is yelling "he pulled a Gun"
 
What i mean is none volunteered to turn it over and I think I see one kid possibly picking it up when they head in to the scrap.
Brent
 
What i mean is none volunteered to turn it over and I think I see one kid possibly picking it up when they head in to the scrap.
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Since the video stopped before everything drew to a conclusion, I don't think you have much basis to ASSUME that one of the skateboarders kept the gun. We simply don't know what happened to it - perhaps we should leave it at that instead of speculating.
 
The gunman can be seen on the video grabbing the skateboarder's shirt and hanging on when the skateboarder tried to disengage. Skateboarder therefore had little choice but to continue his defense. Plus, at the beginning, the skateboarder's gestures give a strong impression that he was attempting to calm the situation. I can find no fault with the skateboarder.

If that was a security guard coming in at the end, he sure approached an armed confrontation rather casually, don't you think? But then, I couldn't tell where the gun was at that time, so maybe he didn't see it.

Video evidence is helpful should any charges be brought against the skateboarder and in prosecuting the gunman. Granted that LE could not have arrived in time to affect the outcome, would ya'll have preferred the cell phone be used to record video or call 911?
 
Im not trying to give the impression that the skateboarder was in the wrong. He had a gun pulled on him and thus, the GB was threatening his life. Personally, I wish he would have messed him up far worse. Originally, it seemed to me that the other kids joining in, hitting the GB with their boards was excessive- though that was my first take. Now, im not so sure. It seems that the GB WAS continually trying to gain the upper hand (Grabbing/throwing/etc) rather than defend his head.

I agree- props to the kid. Im not sure I would have the guts to do what he did- but in that situation, I suppose instict takes over.

Unfortunately I do not have the rest of the story, I'll post more info when/if there is news coverage and or more info comes out.
 
Wow he handled that well. Sounds like the GB is talking ish while he's getting spanked. That kid delivers some blows, you can even see how dazed and messed up the GB is when he stands up. I honestly don't think he even had a thought of using that gun, just trying to intimidate. It was a legal fight! 1:25 in you can see the ref come in.:D
 
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