Taurus (was: Guns kicked out)

if the police wont use em , even as back up that should give you a fair
idea on how well they are preferred.......I bought my Keltec from a LEO
because his chief will not put them on the OK to use as BUG list
 
Did you see....?

Have you guys noticed the new thread called "Proud Taurus Owners". They are only the tip of the iceberg of satisfied customers.
 
G1R2, have you noticed that thread is going on 4 days old, and despite the impassioned defenses offered in this and similar threads, it has so far only received 35 replies?

One could take that as "damned by faint praise," as easily as "the tip of the iceberg."
 
OTOH, Davidson's charges a premium compared to other distributors my LGS uses. They probably have their return costs covered pretty well.

Really? I thought the $220.00 my mom spent on the TCP from Davidson's was pretty decent. Now granted, my dealer made her a good deal on it, but he still made a profit.

Daryl
 
The cost of the gun pales in comparison to what one will spend on range fees, ammunition and accessories in the long run. Spend the extra $100-$150 and get a quality gun. The only reason I would ever consider a Taurus is to be my truck gun . Thats for when I go places I can't carry and have to leave my gun in the truck, which needs to be a POS if I'm leaving it in there. I don't like leaving my Sig in there. I still can't see myself buying a Taurus even at a good deal as I'd rather find a beat up police trade in Glock.
 
Over the years, I have had three Taurus products. An older revolver that worked fine for the few rounds I fired through it before trading it, a pt92 that was fine when it wasn't being limp wristed and a pt145 that worked fine but was traded off to a friend recently for an old Marlin 336 because it was difficult for me to shoot as accurately as I would like. I could say that, based upon my experience, Taurus makes a fine product but my sample size is very small. Dealers probably have a lot more experience with the issues of the guns they sell.

A dealer may decide to drop the product because (s)he can't make enough money on it to cover the time spent. This could be due to a lot of guns breaking, it could be a problem with how the manufacturer handles the breakages or it could be a combination of the two.
 
The cost of the gun pales in comparison to what one will spend on range fees, ammunition and accessories in the long run. Spend the extra $100-$150 and get a quality gun.

For a serious shooter, I agree with you 100%. My personal preference goes toward S&W and Ruger revolvers. Either will last several lifetimes with proper care.

But for someone who ISN'T a serious shooter, who just wants something to defend theirself or loved ones with, a tested and proven Taurus can be a decent option. Some folks in this category have a hard time justifying $500 or more for a better quality gun.

And range fees don't matter one whit to me or to mom's husband. I practice in the back yard, and they practice the same way...in their back yard.

BTW-the little TCP seems to be working just fine thus far. If it gets shot another hundred times in the next five years, I'll be impressed. For such low-volume shooting, it seems to fit the bill just fine.

A hundred rounds won't get me by for very long at all. Shooting is my passion, and I have no problem paying higher prices for a gun that will last.

Daryl
 
I just don't see any reason to buy a Taurus. You can buy a used quality pistol that will work for the same price or less, with accessories than you can buy a new Taurus. This goes for revolvers, autos, pocket pistols... everything except
"the judge" I suppose. I shudder at the thought of buying a used Taurus. If I'm ever in a gunfight, I hope the other guy is shooting Taurus.
 
It's odd how we get some TFL dealers (that I have not met) saying they never have problems with Taurus. Yet dealers I actually know...

CCW instructor I just trained with for my new state is also a gun shop owner. He also has had problems. Last year, January-February timeframe, he said Taurus CS was not even answering phones.

Somebody he knew at Taurus told him that after some personnel and factory shifts, the new gun return rate had hit 65% for a brief period, and had swamped CS. Apparently, things got corrected somewhat in March.

Whether this is true, I don't know; it is in keeping with what some dealer friends were telling me last year about their issues with Taurus.

Also, while I know dealers who sell Taurus, I do not know any dealers, gun shop employees, or instructors who carry Taurus.
 
The fact is, some Taurus guns run, and some don't.

My dealer (and also one of my best friends) runs an FFL business from his home. My mother wanted to buy her husband a firearm for Christmas, but didn't have the money to put into something more expensive, so I asked Cole what he'd recommend.

He suggested Taurus, but also told me that some run, and some don't. He also told me that he'd order it from Davidson's, since they have a lifetime manufacturer's warranty on all firearms they sell. No dealing with Taurus; just have him return it to Davidson's if it ever has a problem, and they'll replace it free in just a few days.

Mom's husband isn't much of a shooter, but he wanted something to stick in his pocket while out-'n-about, since he's in some bad areas with his job. That little Tauus seems to fit the bill, and he likes it.

Not much to lose with that kind of backing from the distributor.

Daryl


But if he doesn't shoot it often enough to be sure his is a "runner", I hope that he doesn't find out that it isn't when he needs his weapon. That type of risk is unacceptable to me, and I would guess that most others would feel the same way. No thug is going to give you a second chance, and I want to be ready with a piece I know will go kaboom EVERY TIME.
I say if you are confident enough in your weapon, carry it.............if it fails and you survive, then return it to Davidson's. And I am not trying to attack you Daryl, just throwin out my $0.02 bro
 
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But if he doesn't shoot it often enough to be sure his is a "runner", I hope that he doesn't find out that it isn't when he needs his weapon. That type of risk is unacceptable to me, and I would guess that most others would feel the same way. No thug is going to give you a second chance, and I want to be ready with a piece I know will go kaboom EVERY TIME.
I say if you are confident enough in your weapon, carry it.............if it fails and you survive, then return it to Davidson's. And I am not trying to attack you Daryl, just throwin out my $0.02 bro

To be sure, I have no authority to dictate how often any other person shoots their gun. I also have no authority to dictate how much they want to spend on one.

But the fact remains that some folks who aren't avid shooters have a hard time justifying the price of a S&W, Ruger, Colt, Springfield Armory, or other "better quality" firearm. As I've said, I'm an avid shooter, and have no problems with saving my money 'till I can afford something that I'll never have to replace as a "worn out" firearm. The fact remains that I know people who do.

For them, they see a similar looking Taurus in the case at two thirds the price, and they see a chance to save money. For these people, Davidson's willingness to replace a faulty firearm (and then THEY deal with Taurus' known poor CS with Davidson's buying power) seems like a good thing.

My mom and her husband priced several "pocket pistols", but decided that they all cost more than they were willing to pay. The fact remained that he needs something to defend himself with in some areas his job takes him in the middle of the night. A Taurus TCP at $220 was do-able, and so far it's ran fine. He's very satisfied with it. He's also not much of a shooter, and if he shoots more than a mag or two once a year, I'll be impressed.

If it fails to function properly if/when he needs it, then shame on him for not shooting it more to find any abnormalities. If abnormalities occur on his rare shooting days, he still has the Davidson warranty for replacement.

I've owned two Taurus handguns that failed to please me. I was able to fix one by filing a small amount off of the hammer to get harder primer strikes. The other was a model 66 (I think?) in .357 that shot loose in less than 500 rounds. I don't own either any more, but I'm a shooter who likes to shoot.

At the same time, I've had one CZ 75b that never ran a single mag without several jams. I also had a Springfield Armory 1911 "micro-compact" that broke twice before I'd finished the first box of target ammo. I don't own either of these any more, either. They just cost me more money, and I lost more money when I got rid of them. More money is no guarantee of better performance, but the odds are often better.

The firearms I carry for both defense and hunting are ones I've shot literally thousands of rounds through. I know what to expect of them, and yes, even those can fail. The chance of it happening in a crisis is pretty slim, but it can happen.

So if a person only wants to pay for a Taurus, I suggest getting it from Davidson's, and then ringing it out to see what it's made of. If it fails, return it for replacement...just like any of us would want to do with any other brand.
 
Really?

I don't believe this!

Quote: I bought my one Taurus, a 740 Slim, because it's a .40 and it was cheap, I use it as a range beater. It shoots so poorly that its an excellent training weapon. After I shoot it, Im nearly a sniper when I pick up my PPS. If it breaks, who cares, I'll destroy it myself.

Divide what you pay for a gun by the number of months you had it...for my Taurus, I spend more at Starbucks....so I'll gladly walk away when it stops working, but it keeps on ticking.

While some argue that price is not related to the quality of what you get, I still retain my disagreement.

So why do you continue to own your Tarus? If you are unhappy with it, why complain about it on a public forum, why not just trade it in or sell it?

Remember guys, I don't work for Tarus nor have ever owned or shot a Tarus, but let's be fair.
 
Every Taurus I've owned has run flawless, even beating out my Rugers in reliability. But every Taurus I've owned has been a 5 shot snub revolver and most the problems I hear about are semi-autos.

It doesn't surprise me that Diamondback is on that black list as well. I've yet to see a reliable one.
 
rem44m


Every Taurus I've owned has run flawless, even beating out my Rugers in reliability. But every Taurus I've owned has been a 5 shot snub revolver and most the problems I hear about are semi-autos


Glad that your revolvers have been shooters, but not all of thier revolvers are like that...I have 2 that have not been. You did not say the vintage of your guns, mine have been made in the last 5 yrs. However, in the interest of fairness, I do have a .454 that has been fine although it has seen only about 100 rounds .454 and around the same amount of .45lc handloads.
 
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