Why don't they get it?! They make some desireable products but many of us wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole b/c of their awful QC and customer svc. If they would just hire two senior managers to be in charge of QC and cust. svc. to crack some heads they could clean it up. Pay each of these guys 150-200k and they would make their money back the first morning. They could probably even keep most of the employees, they just need to be redirected. I guarantee I could whip the cust svc. dept. into shape the first quarter.
Taurus changed my mind
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My old man won a Taurus 1911 at a dinner held by his CCW club in Nevada. He took it to his local gun pro and asked him what he thought of it. "It's a Taurus, I would get rid of it", was the reply. Well, that just frosted the old man's cake, so he doesn't go to that guy any more.
Funny how incensed we get when somebody talks that way about something we like. My old man knows very little about guns, and in spite of the CCW, he can't hit a bowling pin at 7 yards with a 4 inch revolver (not exaggerating).
Just a funny story. I have no experience with Taurus at all, so I can't speak one way or the other. I told the old man we should take the Taurus out, and shoot the livin krapp out of it, then decide if we like it or not!
Funny how incensed we get when somebody talks that way about something we like. My old man knows very little about guns, and in spite of the CCW, he can't hit a bowling pin at 7 yards with a 4 inch revolver (not exaggerating).
Just a funny story. I have no experience with Taurus at all, so I can't speak one way or the other. I told the old man we should take the Taurus out, and shoot the livin krapp out of it, then decide if we like it or not!
I'm going to call the sporting goods store tonight. In all fairness I will not push them, both guys at the counter tried to talk me out of a Taurus. I went for the gamble because of my other Taurus, but the dice did not land in my favor. I appreciate their honesty and will not push them one bit. They should not have to be stuck with a pile that they warned me about.
As for -nefprotector- I used to defend Taurus but I never went around calling people liars. I hope you can learn a little respect .... God Bless.
As for -nefprotector- I used to defend Taurus but I never went around calling people liars. I hope you can learn a little respect .... God Bless.
FrankenMauser
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I have a Taurus PT-138. It was the original polymer .380 from Taurus (before the Millenium version, and before the later Millenium Pro version). It was such a fantastic pistol, that they discontinued the model, and issued an in-house recall; less than 6 months after production began.
Any of those pistols that make it into their repair center are not allowed to go back out. It seems the striker assembly was having major issues - causing slam-fires, and out-right breaking. Taurus decided it was an unrepairable condition, that warranted stopping production entirely. Yet... they never issued a recall, to tell people they are using inherently dangerous pistols.
They decided to let the weapons cause issues, and confiscate them as they were sent to the repair center. Sure, you can get a newer model as a replacement... but not everyone likes the newer models, and this shouldn't have happened in the first place!
On my pistol, the magazine follower was installed backward during production. How horrible does quality control, and employee attention have to be, to install parts obviously incorrectly?
First time out... the slide locked up, because a piece of polymer broke off the frame.
Second time out... the slide locked up, because the striker lug had jammed itself on the metal insert in the frame.
Every time out... it wouldn't function for more than 2 rounds, without a major stoppage.
The only reason I still own that pistol, and the only reason it even functions, is because I modified it. (You call it tinkering. ...I call it re-engineering.) It may work now; but it's still a P.O.S. Taurus, that never should have left the factory.
4runnerman
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I have a PT1911 45 ACP.4000 rounds so far give or take,never an issue,never a problem.Very happy with it. Makes me wonder about those that have issues. Had a Marlin and Winchester 22 cal.The old ones(drop 18 rounds down tube style).Both biggest pcs of junk i ever owned. Maybe i got the only good one. I hear these Taurus story's in here only. At the range)outdoor and indoor) that i shoot at,lots of Taurus people there. I ask and ask.seems i get same answer,Never a problem never an issue,shoot anything you put through them. Must be a lot of us that got the best one HUH?. I only post this because,so far my expirence and all those i can get first hand info from are in my boat. I beleive 50% of what i read in here and take that 50% with a grain of salt. All any one needs to do is Google remmy probs,SW probs,Ruger probs,ect ect. You will find story after story of problrms ,issues,junk,ect.
Good service from Taurus here
The cylinder on my wife's .38 snubbie Taurus started to not rotate so I called Taurus and sent it in. Within a couple of weeks I had a brand new gun from them. They didn't explain or ask about anything else, just sent a new gun. My .45LC has been great for 10 years now and my wife's PT709 has been flawless for the past year or so.
Sorry for your troubles Skidder. Not good when any firearm causes trouble. I had that happen with a Stoeger .12 gauge that I really wanted to like.
Finally just got rid of it. Best of luck in the future.
The cylinder on my wife's .38 snubbie Taurus started to not rotate so I called Taurus and sent it in. Within a couple of weeks I had a brand new gun from them. They didn't explain or ask about anything else, just sent a new gun. My .45LC has been great for 10 years now and my wife's PT709 has been flawless for the past year or so.
Sorry for your troubles Skidder. Not good when any firearm causes trouble. I had that happen with a Stoeger .12 gauge that I really wanted to like.
Finally just got rid of it. Best of luck in the future.My experiences with Taurus products were also negative and reflect poor quality control. My opinion is that Taurus spends more time on making the exterior pretty than on taking pains with interior function. My guess is that the factory fitters are receiving sub-standard, out-of-spec parts and may be doing their best with what they are given. Perhaps the machinery is worn out.
Management may be pleased with the profit margin and not be motivated to improve product.
Many happy T owners keep their little used and maybe unfired handguns in a sock drawer and are not aware of issues that we discuss--perhaps.
Management may be pleased with the profit margin and not be motivated to improve product.
Many happy T owners keep their little used and maybe unfired handguns in a sock drawer and are not aware of issues that we discuss--perhaps.
larryf1952
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Wow, reading all of these posts makes me feel really lucky. I own 3 Taurus handguns, and all of them have been problem free and excellent performers. Of course, having said that, I also have to say that I haven't bought a Taurus since 1993. I own a PT92, a PT100 and a Model 85 snub, all purchased in the early '90's. All 3 of these guns are well built and show no obvious defects. They have fired many rounds, and the 92 and 100 are tack drivers.
But, today I'd not buy a Taurus on a bet. I've just heard too many stories like these, and there are too many other great choices available to risk complicating my life.
But, today I'd not buy a Taurus on a bet. I've just heard too many stories like these, and there are too many other great choices available to risk complicating my life.
I had a tuarus 8 years ago, a pt945. I miss that gun was accurate, easy to shoot with low recoil. I had just one big problem with it that forced me to sell it. Every few shots the base plate of the magazines would fall out. I had 3 magzines and all of them did this. It wasnt funny to be firing a string of rounds and then have the rest of your ammo fall out the bottom of your gun.
Now normaly i would have just bought new ones, but at that time none of the gunstores around here had any tuarus magazines at all. I didnt have Internet at the time so i couldnt order more. So i went to a gun show, and sold it to a guy, with full disclosure of the problems. I took a bath on that one.
I miss the gun, I may end up buying another but im leary of getting crappy magazines again.
Now normaly i would have just bought new ones, but at that time none of the gunstores around here had any tuarus magazines at all. I didnt have Internet at the time so i couldnt order more. So i went to a gun show, and sold it to a guy, with full disclosure of the problems. I took a bath on that one.
I miss the gun, I may end up buying another but im leary of getting crappy magazines again.
SauerGrapes
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If I were you, I'd be screaming holy hell at Taurus. They would sorely be sorry I bought one of their products. I'm not the kind of guy that let's things slide.
I don't blame ex-Taurus owners for being upset and bashing bad customer support. I won't tolerate internet idiots just piling on because they can.
Taurus could do a better job, and should.
I've been lucky I guess with the two I own. I've heard a lot of problems, especially with their revolvers.
I don't defend Taurus. Guys have legitimate gripes and the company just doesn't seem to care what leaves the factory. I guess I got them on a good day. Shame....
I don't blame ex-Taurus owners for being upset and bashing bad customer support. I won't tolerate internet idiots just piling on because they can.
Taurus could do a better job, and should.
I've been lucky I guess with the two I own. I've heard a lot of problems, especially with their revolvers.
I don't defend Taurus. Guys have legitimate gripes and the company just doesn't seem to care what leaves the factory. I guess I got them on a good day. Shame....
SwampYankee
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Well, you could just call him a liar.
You simply don't have the repeated horror stories that surround Taurus with Smith, Ruger, Colt, etc. Yeah, bad things happen but the other big guys usually make it right.
You get what you pay for. If you pay for Taurus, you get frustration and unhappiness.
armoredman
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My tuarus experiance goes back a ways, when I sent in my stepfathers 4 inch 38 for repair work in 1986. It was made before 82, and they refused to fix it without cash up front. then two trips later is was still not right, and became a trade in for his wonderful Smith Model 10.
I won a Tarus CIA 38 spec Ultralite on a gun forum, and it went in for repair the day I got it. It came back about 2 months later repaired, and was subsequently traded to a friend, who has already had to use it to defend his life.
I HAD a Taurus concealed hammer model 85 in 1992 that worked perfectly, loaned it to a friend, never saw it again, didn't sweat it. I like the look and feel of the TCP, but the reliabilty and quality control just make me say no.
I won a Tarus CIA 38 spec Ultralite on a gun forum, and it went in for repair the day I got it. It came back about 2 months later repaired, and was subsequently traded to a friend, who has already had to use it to defend his life.
I HAD a Taurus concealed hammer model 85 in 1992 that worked perfectly, loaned it to a friend, never saw it again, didn't sweat it.
I like the look and feel of the TCP, but the reliabilty and quality control just make me say no.Quote: have a PT1911 45 ACP.4000 rounds so far give or take,never an issue,never a problem.Very happy with it. Makes me wonder about those that have issues. Had a Marlin and Winchester 22 cal.The old ones(drop 18 rounds down tube style).Both biggest pcs of junk i ever owned. Maybe i got the only good one. I hear these Taurus story's in here only. At the range)outdoor and indoor) that i shoot at,lots of Taurus people there. I ask and ask.seems i get same answer,Never a problem never an issue,shoot anything you put through them. Must be a lot of us that got the best one HUH?. I only post this because,so far my expirence and all those i can get first hand info from are in my boat. I beleive 50% of what i read in here and take that 50% with a grain of salt. All any one needs to do is Google remmy probs,SW probs,Ruger probs,ect ect. You will find story after story of problrms ,issues,junk,ect.
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What can I say, Ignorance is bliss I have had 2 Taurus products, one was great, the other was a complete POS!
Let me tell you, it can get expensive shipping the damn thing back to them at your cost when they don't do a freaking thing to it! I used to defend them as well, but no more. I finally traded my 9 year old 627 on a Ruger because I just couldn't trust it after the problems I had with the PT. As you have said, U.S. companies like Ruger, Smith, and Remington (I assume that is what you mean when you say "remmy") have their fair share of problems................I haven't seen Ruger try and hide from one yet; when Ruger has problems they will issue a recall, fix it for you and don't charge you shipping. As for those of you who say they rush a product too market..............welcome to the 21st century where all companies use the consumer as a beta tester
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What can I say, Ignorance is bliss
I have had 2 Taurus products, one was great, the other was a complete POS! Let me tell you, it can get expensive shipping the damn thing back to them at your cost when they don't do a freaking thing to it! I used to defend them as well, but no more. I finally traded my 9 year old 627 on a Ruger because I just couldn't trust it after the problems I had with the PT. As you have said, U.S. companies like Ruger, Smith, and Remington (I assume that is what you mean when you say "remmy") have their fair share of problems................I haven't seen Ruger try and hide from one yet; when Ruger has problems they will issue a recall, fix it for you and don't charge you shipping. As for those of you who say they rush a product too market..............welcome to the 21st century where all companies use the consumer as a beta testerFrasier said:
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i hate tuarus.
i had one 45 guacho that actually wasnt a bad revolver- I broke the half cock off the trigger, sent it in, and they replaced it. worked fine.
BUT many others i have dealt with were poor quality. one friend of mine had the bolt of his taurus 357 something, crumble, and the hand bent after a few rounds after it was sent back to him. it seams that i hear about their double action revolvers taking the poop more often then the single action or the auto pistols... wonder if there is something there
LockedBreech
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nefprotector said:
Wow. Disagree, provide counter examples all you want, but it is not okay to just call a fellow TFL member a liar.
Why would he have even bothered posting if it was false?
To the OP, when I started shooting, my dad gave me certain rules.
1. Every gun is always loaded.
2. Finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
3. Cover nothing you don't want to destroy.
4. Rule 1 again.
5. Never, ever buy a Taurus.
Best of luck with your predicament.
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