SWAT shoots/kills black man (VIDEO)

Was this shooting an example of justified use of force?

  • Yes

    Votes: 43 79.6%

  • No

    Votes: 2 3.7%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Not enough information

    Votes: 8 14.8%
  • Total voters
    54
Remember what happened in Waco.

Another Attorney General as bizzare as our current one decided to kill a bunch of people "for the kids."

What was the rush? What was so important that they had to rush in?

Nothing.

Now every podunk PD has a "SWAT" team. If you have the equipment, you'll figure out a reason to use the equipment. "Authority" is never satisfied with what they have. If you don't have a problem, manufacture one, otherwise they'll take your budget away.

As far as I can see, the dead dude wasn't doing anything at the moment that required him being filled full of lead.
 
I was joking.
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I caught that. Hence my ;)
However, police forces (and fire protection) are a state, not federal issue, aren't they? (except for aid in case of disasters).
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Depending on the organization, it'd be State, County, Township or City (or whatever the unit of incorporation).

But States, Counties, Townships and Cities don't get their money through bake sales.
 
No, they don't.

But I'd say that is a legitimate role of government.

Or would you say that using taxes to pay for a national military - or court system - is socialist as well?
 
Micro, I think we're taking this thread a little too far off topic.

You haven't even tried to answer my question anyway. I'm still amazed that you defend the profits of drug dealers who wouldn't pay any taxes to support the programs you would require everyone else to pay for (whatever those programs may be). Why should they be exempt from the collective?
 
I'm still amazed that you defend the profits of drug dealers who wouldn't pay any taxes to support the programs you would require everyone else to pay for
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Well, the alcohol runners of the 1920s paid sales taxes, property taxes, etc. As to the drug dealers today.

However, when alcohol prohibition was repealed in 1933, the .gov cashed in on what is today, billions of dollars of tax money at every level. Cost of product went down while quality and purity went up... and the crime rate went down as well.

My guess is the "programs" Micro would pay for would be far, far, far fewer than are instituted currently.

Rick
 
RickD,

My guess is the "programs" Micro would pay for would be far, far, far fewer than are instituted currently.
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Unless he's changed radically in the past week, our resident self-proclaimed "Socialist Libertarian" is in favor of far, far, far more "programs" than we currently have. ;)
 
It is perfectly known for everybody that the extremist welfare states of Europe have failed. Howevere, it does not by any degree mean that we need to abolish the safety nets entirely.
 
You've got it backwards, Micro. The burden of proof is on you to show that "safety nets" are the proper business of government.


Which is a discussion that should take place in a new thread, since this thread is about a SWAT shooting.
 
Only temporarily. I suspect when the other 2 get out of jail they will resume victimizing the public once again...... >sigh<
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Yes, I was only thinking of the star of the film. Alas, 1 out of three is only a good showing in baseball. In real life, it means you're doing a lousy job.

I don't mean to suggest the other two should have been shot - just a comment on the pathetic state of our courts. (Which is NOT due to the Drug War!)
 
The shooting is besides the point. Once the LE officers were in the position of confronting people in that situation, it was not too hard to imagine an outcome like this.
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Eggstackly. Given the circumstances in the few seconds after SWAT entered the door, I can't see any way to fault the actions of the officer who did the shooting. Whether the whole thing should have happened or not is a separate discussion.

It's very much like one of TBO's other posts of a police shooting - the video of the lunatic that got shot by SWAT on his own property. In that case, we had the info that the man was a mental case, and police had been called. He had a rifle, and as he rounded the corner of his house, he sees SWAT sneaking up on him. He begins to swing the rifle in their direction, and gets shot. Dead on the scene, IIRC.

Again, you can't fault the officer for shooting a man with a rifle who is trying to point it at him, but that still leaves the question, should SWAT have been sent there in the first place?
 
If I tell you to freeze, and you instead pull up your shirt, the last thing you will ever hear is the double-tap to your COM.
 
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