Suspect shot in London (merged)

gburner

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Reports from London this AM are that a suspect from yesterdays tube bombings was being chased by armed police, jumped the turnstile at an underground station as police challenged him and called for him to stop. He then boarded a subway car where police tackled him, held him down and shot him 5 times point blank.


Interrogation is expected to be difficult.
 
police tackled him, held him down and shot him 5 times point blank.
WHAT?
:eek:


My first thought was to check the sources of these reports, because that just didn't sound very likely.

My second thought is, what if he was trying to detonate a bomb?
:eek:
 
Suspected suicide bomber shot dead
(Filed: 22/07/2005)

Police have shot dead a man, believed to be a suicide bomber, after a chase at Stockwell Tube station.

There were unconfirmed reports that police believe the man was one of the attackers involved in yesterday's failed bomb attacks.

Scotland Yard said: "We can confirm that just after 10am armed officers entered Stockwell Tube station.

"A man was challenged by officers and subsequently shot. London Ambulance Service attended the scene. He was pronounced dead at the scene."

Tube passengers have been evacuated from Stockwell station in south London.

Witnesses described seeing undercover police chase the suspect.

Mark Whitby said: "I'm totally distraught".

"It was no more than five yards away from where I was sitting as I saw it with my own eyes."

London bombings

He added: "As the man got on the train I looked at his face. He looked from left to right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, like a cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified.

"He sort of tripped but they were hotly pursuing him and couldn't have been more than two or three feet behind him at this time. He half-tripped, was half-pushed to the floor.

"The policeman nearest to me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand, he held it down to the guy and unloaded five shots into him."

A large area around Stockwell Tube Station, an interchange for the Northern and Victoria lines was cordoned off and traffic approaching the area ground to a halt.

London is on high alert after four devices failed to detonate properly on three Tube trains and a bus in the capital yesterday.

Police search Warren Street for evidence of chemical agents

Two weeks ago 56 people died in four bomb blasts on the London transport system.

A statement posted today on an Islamic website in the name of an al-Qa'eda-linked group claimed responsibility for the latest blasts - blaming British involvement in Iraq.

The group, Abu Hafs al Masri Brigade, also claimed responsibility for the July 7 bombings.

The statement's authenticity could not be immediately verified.

A manhunt has been under way for the four would-be bombers who fled from the incidents yesterday at Shepherd's Bush, Oval and Warren Street as well as the number 26 bus in Hackney.

One person was reported injured in the attacks.

Police were cautiously optimistic that the terrorists had opened a door to their secrets.

It is thought that they were of a similar design to the July 7 bombs and could accelerate the process of discovering who built the devices and planned the attacks.

Sounds like he was shot by armed officers; on THR, a British cop has opined that these were plainclothes counter-intelligence officers who were trying to follow him when he made them and took off. I'd say they had a strong suspicion that he might have had a bomb at that moment and decided they had to shoot him to keep him from detonating it.

I can't imagine they didn't want to interrogate him. :mad:
 
Concur with their actions in shooting the man. While it's better to catch them alive to interrogate them, it does you no good to get blown up while trying to apprehend him. No criticism from me on the actions of the British police. Indeed, kudos to them.
 
You have to shoot him enough times that his thumb can't move a quarter inch.

However, reports are that he wasn't carrying a bomb - but you'd think that if you were wearing a large coat in 75 degree weather and the police asked you to stop, running away wouldn't be your first instinct. We're at war.
 
No way to MMQB on this one...all comments are spot on as far as I'm concerned. I hope that this is a trend that catches on.
 
BBC World Service reporting witnesses on the train say the man had a belt with wires coming out of it and attempted to grab a passenger (perhaps for hostage) inside the train before he was tackled.
 
Reportedly, due to the poorly constructed bombs failing to detonate yesterday, our 'suspect' failed to get his ticket punched for martyrdom in a big explosion taking many an infidel with him.

Perhaps martyrdom by cop this morning? Bad news is that we won't get any 'intellegence' from him. Good news is that the furnaces of Hell just got some more fuel.
 
This is a report from a seperate incident today:
"Police have cordoned off Portnall Road, W9 right angles to the Harrow Road. All residents have been ordered to remain inside their houses. Five gunshots were fired just minutes ago followed by lots of shouting."
Other reports talk of bomb disposal teams and armed police at the scene. The police have not confirmed that any short were fired.
 
FOXNEWS ALERT!

The ACLU and the American Liberal Party have announced they are flying in a team of 100 lawyers to sue the British Authorities, because they did not "negotiate" and "try to understand" this innocent person before shooting/killing him!

In othernews, Congresswoman Feinstein said this is a good reason why Police Officers can not be trusted with firearms.
 
MI5 is part of the SIS or secret intelligence service (maybe a CIA or NSA equivalent), which probably comes under control of the Ministry of Defence, whereas SO12 & 13 are part of the police specialist operations division.
However, MI5 is responsible for domestic intelligence matters, and they will have probably worked alongside the police during the current operation.
 
London Terrorist Shooting

If you look at the posts on AOL about this, you'll find a bunch of ACLU educated folks whining and complaining about the "Nazi Police" tactics, who are being allowed to rant on and on. However, a few who posted congrats to the bobbies and got a bit rowdy about hoping for more of the same, have had their comments removed by AOL and their access blocked. Odd old world where AOL looks to be siding with the poor little misunderstood terrorists. Wonder how long before we're required to call them "Opposition Freedom Fighters" as a gesture of impartiality? So glad I'm off AOL, except for emergencies.
 
London Terrorist Shooting

So, if it turns out he was just a really coldblooded Bi Polar type wearing that big coat to keep warm and running away because the voices told him to, then I guess we have to just post a scorecard:

Bobbies 1 OOPs, Islamist scumbags 56 dead Londoners on purpose.

The Bobbies get 55 more before calling the game even.

Works for me.
 
holding someone down and shooting them is not my idea of due process

that may fly on the isle, but that happens to represent one of the grievances addressed in the Declaration of Independence:

"For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:"
 
You have to shoot him enough times to insure that his thumb can't move a quarter inch, in order to save your own life and the lives of everyone around you.

Welcome to the War on Terror, Great Britain.

I wonder if this will cause some Brits to rethink their oppressive gun bans and prosecution of self-defenders?
 
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