Straight pull rifles

Hello

Actually there are quite a few straight pull firearms available, at least here in Europe. A quick warning though, expect to pay between 2000-4000€ for the rifle depending on extras :eek:.

Blaser R93, Blaser R8

http://www.blaser.de/Buechsen-und-Flinten.1761.0.html?&L=0

Heym SR30 (a VERY interesting version using ballbearings as locking mechanism)
http://www.heym-waffenfabrik.de/produkt_sr30.html

Strasser RS05
http://www.strasser-salzburg.at/

Browning Acera (I believe it to be discontiued)

Mauser 96 (discontiued)
http://www.mauser.com/Modell-96.164.0.html

I'm sure I forgot some.

And then many countries are very restrictive about semiauto ownership, so you can get just about all semiauto's converted to straightpull. It is actually quite sad to see an ak74, steyr or similar converted to straight pull.

Let us not forget the toggle actions often used on biathlon rifles. I know they are only 22 and not a "real" straight pull.

Greetings,

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Ideal,

The 6mm Lee Navy, along with the powder issues, was not known for its wounding power, a common complaint for most of the other early 6mms that had very heavy, very long full metal jacket bullets.

They simply drilled nice neat holes through the target, transferring very little energy, and not creating much of a wound.

It was those properties that led Karamajo Bell to choose as one of his favorite elephant guns the 6.5 Mannlicher Schonauer military cartridge.

The long heavy bullet would plow through an elephant's skull for several feet, easily reaching the brain, before it showed any propensity to either yaw or tumble.
 
I think it really comes down to manufacturing cost. A straight pull that functions as well as rotary bolt guns is maybe 3-4 times the expense. My undrstanding is the K31 would cost $2-3000 to manufacture today.

I own two straight pulls. I plan to buy at least one more(factory 308 K31) and probably two more(Mauser 96 30-06). If I hit the lottery I would buy more(one of each). Maybe even manufacture one :)
 
I think several folks hit the nail on the head with cost. I own several straight pull rifles, but for my use really don't see any practical advantage. I could see the benefit in the biathlon shooting.
 
One fine straight pull rifle was the Browning T-Bolt. Much slicker than a regular .22 bolt gun, fast to work and simple. However, not a match for a semi auto, and so, tiny market.

I have some experience with the Swiss K31. Sweet rifle, impressive mechanics, BUT not any practical advantage over a Mauser or SMLE. Better working than a Mosin Nagant, though.:D
 
The shooter can stay hunkered down behind cover and operate the bolt without needing to lift up his head and expose it or take eyes off of the sights.
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If you take a bolt rifle off your shoulder to work the bolt, you are doing it wrong. Same with a levergun. Taking the gun off your shoulder is wasting time.

Keep the gun on your shoulder and your eyes on the target. You need not look at the bolt while you work it.....

You'd think folks had never heard of Jeff Cooper ....
 
If you take a bolt rifle off your shoulder to work the bolt, you are doing it wrong.
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I agree, but it's pretty tough to make the argument that a straight pull bolt doesn't require less body movement.

Pull back, push forward vs. Lift up, pull back, push forward, pull down.
 
Plenty of straight pulls here. Semi autos over .22 are illegal. Mostly straight pull versions of modern assault rifles.
 
We are Americans. Straight pull actions are not as rugged as turn bolt actions. You can't bubbafy a surplus K-31 into a magnum caliber .... hell you can't even get proper bullets for handloading .....
 
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We are Americans. Straight pull actions are not as rugged as turn bolt actions. You can't bubbafy a surplus K-31 into a magnum caliber .... hell you can't even get proper bullets for handloading .
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So straight pull FN-FAL and AK47 are not rugged.
 
Straight pull. I have one, it is a 1905 Ross, strange little gun, but accurate with two forward locking lugs.

Then Garand, also from Canada designed the M1 Garand, and I know, Garand never saw a 1905 Ross, or met Ross, the Garand is a straight pull/or push that is gas operated.

F. Guffey
 
Jimbob, try the 175 Privi's that Wiedners sells cheap. Work great in a K-31.
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Yeah. It is getting pretty tough to find .308 diameter bullets, let me tell you. :rolleyes:
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Yes, .308" bullets work fine, but according to some sources, the "proper" bullet that jimbob86 refers to is a .306" diameter bullet.

I've gotta say, sarcasm is really funny when it's completely wrong.
 
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He did say we couldn't get the proper bullet, not that we couldn't get a bullet that works fine.

If you want to argue what the true "proper" diameter bullet is, fine, I don't think there's universal agreement on that. A sarcastic comment like your previous one doesn't really help anyone, though.
 
My sincerest apologies. I will never again make such an attempt at humor and from here on out will wear my serious pants whenever posting.
 
It would be interesting to research the training methods from the various armies and see if they taught recruits to work the bolts WITHOUT removing the rifles from their shoulders.
 
My understanding of the Swiss rifles is that the original Schmidt-Rubin took a .306 diameter bullet but the later versions, 1911 and on, went to a .308, but I could be wrong. My first Swiss was a 1889 back in the 80's (pre-internet) and I became convinced that it took a .300 bullet so I took the time to find some .300 Hornady Carcano slugs. Later I switched to cast bullets in the 1889. My K-31's shoot a range of .308's but nothing works as well for me as the Privi "sniper"bullets from Weidners.

ps- this is a light hearted hobby.
 
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