Someone pryed open my back door I grabbed my 20 gauge

Sure am. Did you see how close the drywall sheets were? That's not very much penetration. Add in a 2x4 framing or any other obstacle that could be found in a house and the buckshot isn't going too far. They didn't even get 12" in ballistic gel.

If you live in an apartment building or are overly concerned about over penetration then Buckshot may be a good choice for you. Myself, I live in a brick house and the kids are grown. I want all the penetration I can get.
 
I guess all those deer I've killed with buckshot were just the pansies of the forest then. Or maybe you're expecting bad guys in panzers?
 
Edward, The photograph of drywall penetration is for #4 buckshot, which is a smaller bucksot. Many proponents of using buckshot advocate the use of larger shot; #1 or #00. Framing isn't going to interfere with penetration unless hit. If you are talking about exterior walls, sheeting may be an issue.
 
I'm thinking that if you shoot someone in your home, repairing your drywall will be the last thing on your list of things to worry about! ;)
 
My mos is 13f, I've clear a room before

Where I live it would probly take the sheriff 45 to get there and I'm not waiting for my house to get busted up.
 
As for my initial decision to grab the 20 was not a good idea

I'm going to grab the twelve right out the gate. As for arming the lady I called out friendly coming in before I turned the corner when I was coming back
 
Im not sure 20 ga comes in anything but #3 buck or some slug.
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20 gauge is my primary HD gun for a bunch of reasons but as to what is available I just checked my inventory and I have #8, #7 1/2, #6, #4, shot. 4 buck, 3 buck, 00 buck shot plus SST slugs and FTX slugs. I'm sure I don't have everything but I guarantee you can get 00.

Because of the people in my house and the way my house is laid out I use #4 shot but your situation may be different and you have to make your own choices but gimmick rounds isn't one of the choices. At 10' that rubber ball is as lethal as anything you can shoot out of a shotgun barrel. It was designed for crowd control and they were thinking 50' + not up close and personal.

For SHR970 with the 5" hole at 10' you might want to check your choke. At 10' I put a hole through a 2X4 just big enough to stick my thumb through using #4 shot and an IM choke. at 8 yards I have your 5" pattern and 8 yards is the absolute longest shot I could make in my house, figure most SD shots would be less than half that.

Comment on the light was for the portable light, I have a night light in the living room, and the kitchen and the front porch plus a light on a motion detector on the garage. All of those can be bypassed by pulling my meter and the house is dark but my maglight on my nightstand will still work. I live in the sticks and a car accident with a power pole or a lightning strike on a transformer can put me in darkness for 3 or 4 house easy. Porchlight won't do me much good then but one of my maglights will always work.
 
I alwasy grab my 12ga loaded with #4 Buck and 00 Buck alternatingly. I also have my Glock 20 in 10mm on the nightstand to get me to my 12ga and it goes with me as backup should the shotgun fail...

You have to have a plan!

My wife knows that when I get up to check noises, she gets in the closet on the floor. I want her as low as possible. You never know what direction you will have to shoot in your home, so having her on the floor helps to minimize the chance that she will get hit by rounds through the walls. Most invaders will not be on the floor, they will be standing either looking to fight or looking to run. Center Mass on the average person will be about 5 feet off the ground.

As others have said, IF I have to use my weapon to defend our lives and home, then the last thing I will be worried about is how much it will cost to replace drywall, furniture, or any other material object...

Be safe and keep a clear head!
 
Your right on the light source.

I tried out the tri ball and at 10 feet it did not penetrate a old carhart nor leather jacket, it did dent the hell out of the ply wood behind it, I havnt tried it on any more to save the last two but I wonder if it would punch through cotton. The bean bag just dented the wood a little with the carhart on the wood so I would think this will be the best round for non leathal Amunition given my houses lay out, I'd rather not kill an unarmed man.
 
You shouldn't be shooting an unarmed man, you only use deadly force to save your life or someone else's from eminent danger.


As far as what load to use, I keep 12ga 00 buck in my 870 which has a good light on it and a saddle with reinforcements ;)

I wouldn't use anything less than #4 buck, bird shot is for shooting birds
 
You don't shoot deer behind cover with Buckshot. Buckshot is defeated by the cheesiest body armor they make. Buckshot is fairly easily defeated and is certainly not known for being an excellent penetrator or over penetrator.

I am not saying that Buckshot is bad or wont work on ideal shots at all. I simply say that it doesn't have enough penetration for me. If someone has invaded my home I want to be able to reach them and not let them rest.
 
If you are willing to do the mail order thing... You can readily find #2 and #1 buck in 20ga.

I am not a mailorder sort of guy so I use the #3buck I find in walmart.

Brent
 
You shouldn't be shooting an unarmed man, you only use deadly force to save your life or someone else's from eminent danger.
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Possession of a knife or gun are not the only qualifiers for being "armed'... Sorry but I am not in the business of determining the level of violence a person is capable of dealing out... I am in the business of protecting my family. If a person makes entry into my home, they are living on limited moments.

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The above is an unarmed person...

Anyone with limbs is also armed and potentially lethal or capable of causing GBH.

Brent
 
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