Some CZ questions

I have three CZ's. A PCR, a CZ75B Mil and a pre B CZ75. All have excellent out of the box triggers (for a DA gun). If you want perfection in a trigger, get a slicked up 1911 or BHP, but don't unfairly criticize ALL CZ's.
 
Yep, I do indeed live about 40 minutes away from Glock USA. I agree that shipping would not be an issue that I could compare between the two. However, Glock being near by is just a bonus to the fact that they have always went out of the way to satisfy my expectations, and then some without me having to send several e-mails and make several phone calls to get or keep things moving.:)

R6
 
Anyway, I'm done worrying about this. Whatever happens, happens. I'll go to a local 'smith next week and see if he can sell me a spring from another gun that might fit the extractor and see if that helps. If it doesn't I'll just wait and see what happens with CZ-USA. I have vented until I am indifferent regarding the entire issue. Thanks to all who have weathered my storm. :D I will refrain from posting any further on this until I get the parts and/or the issue is otherwise resolved. :)

R6
 
I positively adore my CZ-75B. I cannot believe I bought it for $300 or so, including a 15-round mag!

It is accurate, reliable and very ergonomic. It is my bedside gun (even though I have or had various 1911, HK, SIG, Beretta, Glock, FN HP, etc.etc.). I know several folks who bought CZ-75s after I did and all of them like their guns quite a bit.

I should mention BTW that samples of CZ-85 beat both the SIG P226 and the Beretta 92F during the Joint Service pistol trials. Unfortunately, Czechoslovakia was, back then, a Soviet satellite still and, obviously, could not be considered a reliable source of supply for the US military.

I never had to use CZ-USA service. However, when I did call to ask about the various grip sets it had, the rep on the phone stayed on the phone for over 30 minutes explaining the different materials, prices and dimensions these grips had. Try getting that kind of attention from HK, for example (esp. if you are a measly civilian).

To be fair, this was a few years ago when CZs weren't very popular or well-known, for that matter, and its office folks weren't so overwhelmed as they are probably now.

Skorzeny
 
I agree about the quality of CZ pistols. In fact, you can ask Joe Klug about me even considering selling a couple of my less often used Glocks to fund more CZ purchases. :) Great guns indeed! I also got very polite and courteous service by phone, except when talking to Mike. Mike was professional in spite of being less than personable to speak with. Of course I would probably less than personable if I talked to as many people per day as he must!:eek: No foul there. :)

R6
 
Maybe not an isse but...

I forgot to mention in my previous post, that if you do get a CZ make sure you plan on keeping it because resale value is about nil. If you plan to use it as stock for horse trading you'll be lucky to get offered $150 for LINIB with all accessories. There's very little demand for them on the used market because they're not that expensive to start with. I know no one buys a tool thinking they'll sell it., but it's worth keeping this in mind. :(
 
Well, I thought that at first, but assumiing that parts & accessory availability and customer service catches up to popularity I think the resale will start to grow as the price of CZ pistols will no doubt start to climb soon and will be near that of other high quality pistols. That will bring the value of good used ones up closer to being in line with other makes. Again, this assumes that other factors don't affect the popularity of the CZ brand.

It's as risky as the stock market but I really think that buying a few more CZ pistols at current price might pay off in the end. At the very least I believe that one would be able to get their money back out of them in a few years if the prices climb high enough.

R6
 
I buy to shoot. I only have one "older" gun, a Mauser Pocket 1934...and I shoot the heck out of it. To me, that is the fun of gun ownership. When I first started buying, I went thru the "what's the best investment" argument. I convinced myself (I still don't know why) that the .40 cal guns were the ones to get. My "logic" was that the .40 was the popular caliber...thus if I wish to sell...I'll have what people want. Well, I now have plenty of .40 guns I don't shoot much because the bark/snap does not appeal to me. (when I begin reloading, I plan to "load down" and again use my .40's).
Today, and I think as time goes on, I'll buy what I like and won't buy with selling as a reason to buy...or whatever!
I have three CZ's and agree, they certainly won't peak at re-sale...but they're not for sale. I did take my $525.00 Glock Model 22 to a dealer a few months back and found him offering $300.
I expect my $380.00 CZ-75B will wholsale around $150-175
 
I don't buy firearms for their resale value. Come to think of it I haven't seen too many CZ's on the used handgun market. Im not saying there aren't any at all, but I haven't found any. Could be that people hold on to them and not sell them??? I'm not into the gun speculation business, I buy guns to shoot and enjoy..


Rick
 
I tired a CZ75 Compact, 75B and Hi-Power for comparison and got the 75B based on the ergonomics and accuracy. For ME 75B beat BHP by a fair margin. The guy whose guns I tried couldn't figure out my logic as his preferences were in reverse order of mine.
 
Oleg,

Ergonomics were what first attracted me to the CZ's in the first place also. CZ's fit my hand the best of any handgun I've experienced holding including my 1911's, CZ's being accurate, reliable AND in-expensive were just icing on the cake..


Rick
 
Resale value.

TECOLOTE wrote:

I forgot to mention in my previous post, that if you do get a CZ make sure you plan on keeping it because resale value is about nil. If you plan to use it as stock for horse trading you'll be lucky to get offered $150 for LINIB with all accessories. There's very little demand for them on the used market because they're not that expensive to start with. I know no one buys a tool thinking they'll sell it., but it's worth keeping this in mind.

That has not been my experience.

I bought my first CZ-75B about a year and a half ago at a gun show. Found one mispriced for $275 and tax. Kept it for almost a year, fell in love with a CZ-85 Combat, and sold the CZ-75B to a gunshop for $285. (The dealer, whom I do a lot of business with, took it, saying, "that's about what I can buy a new one for." He bought it because He'll add $25-$50 and move it the following week." This guy does a lot of business that way. He moves inventory.)

(When I saw the CZ-7s5B at a local gun show, I said, "Wow, that's a great price. I'll take it." Handed over my pistol permit, and the dealer started the paper work. He came back and said, "You're right, that was a great price. We had that one mismarked. Its about $10 over our cost. But I'll sell it to you for that price anyway." He did. This was Classic Arms out of North Carolina; they advertise in Shot Gun News. Good people to do business with. He didn't HAVE to sell it to me at that price.)

I've seen several used ones sold at a gunshop/range as people upgraded, and all of them sold for about $50 less than new guns. That's not a bad price for buyer or seller.

It may just be that folks in your area are unfamiliar with CZs. Unhappily, we just don't see that many used CZs around here (Piedmont NC). I've been looking for a pre-B CZ-75 for some time. I haven't been able to find one. Now, that could mean that people have given up on selling them, or it could mean that they just don't sell them. I suspect the latter.
 
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