DonR101395
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How many people will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman or Obama just because he's black?
I agree, considering either race or sex an issue is stupid
How many people will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman or Obama just because he's black?
I would vote for a puppy-killing, football hating, incestuous Martian if I thought he would preserve and protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic.
I agree, considering either race or sex an issue is stupid
The last thing I want is government bureaucrats trying to interfere with the world's greatest economic engine.
News Flash: Government bureaucrats interfere with the economic engine everyday, and the engine continues to outperform itself each year.
Or that his message and the things he believes in match up with the perceptions of the majority of the black community. And there's nothing wrong with that.This would indicate that they are voting for him because he is black.
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Or that his message and the things he believes in match up with the perceptions of the majority of the black community.
Yes. Of course. Read what you asked.If 90% of whites vote for Hillary, would you say.... her message and the things she believes in match up with the perceptions of the majority of the white community?
Ah so because you see a racial issue it must be "obvious". Maybe what's obvious isn't actually true. But nono, it's far too much trouble to think of more complex issues and realize that the black experience in America is different than the white experience.I doubt it seriously. Let's be honest here and stop pretending that the obvious is not obvious.
thanks, I was looking forward to your permissionredworm, you can be an apologist all you want.
To you. To some others. But not to everyone. Not everyone automatically sees it as a racial issue. Why don't you actually talk to some black voters who support Obama and find out why they're voting for him before acting as if a two-second conclusion has merit.It want change the fact that 90% of any race voting for a person of their race seems racist.
Was this a serious comparison?When has any candidate gotten 90% of the vote from a demographic before? Oh yeah, I think Saddam Hussein got over 90% of the vote back in 2002.
No, it's because you've never been discriminated against because of your skin color. It's because your ancestors didn't experience over two hundreds years of slavery on this continent, because your parents and grandparents and great grandparents didn't experience legalized segregation in this country. It's because you've never actually had to face racism stemming from an entire establishment, not just individuals and groups. You don't have to deal with such issues that have entrenched racism into the culture for generations.The "black experience"??? I had no idea that having a particular skin color was an "experience". I guess that's because I don't see things based on race until someone throws it in my face.
To you. To some others. But not to everyone. Not everyone automatically sees it as a racial issue.firemax
It want change the fact that 90% of any race voting for a person of their race seems racist.
No, it's because you've never been discriminated against because of your skin color.
some verification would be niceI began this by saying the fact that 90% of blacks are voting for Obama.
Not necessarily. There's no need for it to disturb those that don't make an assumption based purely on one piece of information.It should disturb anyone.
Oh I do. Which is why when most of McCain's voters are white I don't immediately think "oh, they're voting for him because he's white!"Just be fair when you hear something coming from white america that sounds racist to you.... stop, think about iti and then learn to understand that it may not seem racial to everyone.
Excuse me, I forgot to add the clarification to that sentence that I did to the others. You haven't been discriminated against because of your skin color by an entire culture, legal system and economic structure.As a matter of fact, I have been discriminated against because I am white many times in my life. I have even been beaten while the assailants called me a white mf, a honkey and a cracker. Racism is not something that comes only from whites, sir.
I began this by saying the fact that 90% of blacks are voting for Obama.
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some verification would be nice
According to exit polls, a third of North Carolina voters were black — and with the support of more than nine in 10 black voters, Barack Obama was able to overcome Hillary Rodham Clinton’s white support and win the Tar Heel State.
redworm
Excuse me, I forgot to add the clarification to that sentence that I did to the others. You haven't been discriminated against because of your skin color by an entire culture, legal system and economic structure.
In one state.
Read.I see. So having my jaw broken by three young black men who attacked me outside of my place of employment simply because I was white does not mean I have been discriminated against?
The people are the same but experiences of black americans and white americans are often vastly different.So, basically, you will clarify and clarify until you make your point clear that whites and blacks are different.
Feeling's mutual.Thanks... and I feel sorry for you.
Really? So claiming that all those blacks are voting for Obama because he's black is judging based on the content of their character?As for me, I try to judge people by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin. Someone else suggested that.... do you know who that was?
News Flash: Government bureaucrats interfere with the economic engine everyday, and the engine continues to outperform itself each year.
redworm
You haven't been discriminated against by an entire nation, by an entire culture, by an entrenched class structure.
Don't throw out quotes like it's going to absolve you of anything. Lame tactic, dude. Lame
No, you haven't. By individuals, yes, but not by the entire culture, not by history and not by government-sponsored segregation.Haven't I? Haven't many of us had this happen to us because of our skin color?
We don't choose to differentiate ourselves in such a manner, it's human nature. Pretending that racism doesn't exist doesn't make it go away and it certainly doesn't help those who are most often the victims of it. Hint: it's not the majority.If we as individuals choose to differentiate ourselves because of our skin color, then our society will always have an element of discrimination built into it that will affect everyone of all races.
The Civil Rights Act did just that. It wasn't perfect but it slapped many racists across the face and made much of the population realize how wrong it had been for generations.You cannot legislate fairness in a society.
The dialectic must come from both ends. Self-realization alone doesn't fly if parents are allowed to teach their children to be bigots.It must come through self realization first and foremost. In other words, I cannot change you, but I can change me.
Read.I'm sorry if the words of a great man seem lame to you. They do not seem lame to me, and my quoting him is not lame in the least.
The Civil Rights Act did just that. It wasn't perfect but it slapped many races across the face