Silencer....

I am reading with interest the replies to the silencer topic. I think that I have a bit to add to the discussion. Here in Ohio it is legal for a person to own one and it is legal in most of the states but you should check. It is a pain in the butt to get one and the approval form takes about 3 to 4 months to be approved by the BATF. If you are working with a reputable manufactureer they can greatly aid in the paperwork process.
I have experience with a Ruger 10/22 with an integral supressor made by AWC. My good frien has it and I have shot it. For that weapon I called them and asked what type of ammo that they recommended for it and they told me that you can use many of the regular 22 long rifle loads that can find at WalMart, Kmart, etc. The supressor will reduce the velocity down to subsonic levels and thus remove the sonic crack. I was curious to see how loud it was and I took it outside my duplex and shot it into the ground. Let me say that it is VERY impressive. I can guarantee you that you would not hear the shot from 20 or 30 feet away. In fact my friend lives in a snooty neighborhood on the river and he frequently has target practice without his neighbors being the wiser. Accuracy is actually enhanced on the gun.
As for a supressor for a 9mm, those are readily available too. The same rules apply. The easiest gun to have them mounted to is the Beretta 92 series, I guess because they are military sidearms. All the other 9mm's can be fitted with a supressor though. Many of the other 9's will require some other device to make sure that the gun will cycle effectively. This recoil regulator is not needed by the Beretta. Subsonic ammo is needed with the 9mm guns and the ammo that is most frequently suggested is the load by IMI (samson) made in Israel. Don't know about any others.
Both of us are now getting ready to start the process of getting a 9mm supressor, we are each going to get on while we still can. I have done quite a bit of reading about them and have asked a lot of questions. To be really effective the 9mm supressor has to be "wet", which means a small amount of oil or other liquid is added to the rear of the unit before firing. This liquid will last about 3 magazines. The noise that a 9mm supressed will put out is like going outside and finding a big heavy car door and pushing it closed. That is how it was described to me. The supressor also does not get hot. The owner of AWC told me to ensure proper function that you should hand torque it down on the barrel after every 5 to 10 shots. I think that if it were to get hot he would have told me about that. You certainly would not have to use hearing protection while shooting it. In fact if you shot it in the house people in adjoining room would not hear it. If any of you don't believe me then I urge you to check out the web sites for the supressor makers.
The best and most reliable is AWC systems at www.awcsystech.com
Gemtech is also on the web at www.gemtech.com
Advanced Armament also has a site at www.advancedarmament.com

Check them out and lets all go buy one.

See Ya.

BD
 
Good post Nalapombu except for one thing that you said. Suppressors do not get hot. You may get away with grabbing a .22 suppressed gun but you better not try that with a larger caliber gun that has about 10 rounds through it rapid fire. Or fire a 30 round mag through a suppressed subgun and grab it. The suppressor works by disipating heat through baffles, wipes, etc. Do not grab a suppressor with your bare hands! You can get some serious burns by doing this.
 
New Zealand still allows silencers...use them for culling exotic unwanted Aussie imported possums. I have seen a box type absorbtion box on a Ruger 10\22 which was OK but worked lose as it was a push-fit, used with aussie Winchester '22 Sub-sonic'... though 'Pistol'(black box) was better at giving reliable low velocities and less "flier" supersonics(usually first shot with shorter 16" barrels is a problem in hot weather at sea level).
Don't clean the rimfire barrel or the attachment for best results, but please check tightness every 10 shots.

Better was the old(legal until 1997 there) South Aussie 'GSA' which screwed on and was a (10)metal baffle type. It shot low but easily got a 1" group at 50M.
Fitting and alighnment is often a problem with semi-autos due to lack of barrel view from the breach end -if damaged etc. Difficult to use a leedle mirror or whip the barrel off when you have taken a spill in the bush hunting miles from home!! Stick to bolt action.

Ah me ! All that is now in the past.....All semi-autos [including rimfires] now effectively banned here in OZ for the general public. Silencers or possession of parts thereof carry 10 years in jail and a
$20,000 fine, or both.

Ahem...Try Palladin Press at Boulder Co...'paladin-press.com'for more info for accademic study only.....


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