Sig Sauer Legion P229 range review. "A Legion in the snow" pictorial.

QUOTE: Guys, no need to argue over if he was true to his word about 40 yards. Honestly who cares?

I, for one, care in the sense that there's a lot of difference between forty yards and forty feet and group sizes should reflect that considerable difference. Though I take Mystro at his word and enjoyed his interesting review of the SIG "Legion"pistol, when I look at the photo he provided I can understand why wild cat mccane believes the target is a whole lot closer to the shooter than forty yards.
For the last several decades I have routinely shot the slow fire stage of Bullseye at fifty yards and have a good idea of what a target looks like at that distance. My guess is that the photo in question was taken in a way that distorts the perspective of the viewer. Pictures can "lie" if the angle position is skewed in terms of depth of field perception. QUOTE

Why does his shooting distance affect you? It's not a big deal. It's how far HE shot. Not how far YOU shot. Needless to say I will not continue arguing over something so silly, and this will be my last reply on this.
 
It matters in the sense that the Legion offers nothing. REALLY nothing. The sights aren't set for long range as the front is a large dot. The trigger is just a Sig SRT package that is smoothed over. The Legion gets pricey because of the finish.

In the end, is a Sig 226 or 229 more accurate than a P30, P99, or PPQ trigger? In different respects, absolutely not.

So, we are either in the presence of someone who is in the 99th percentile for shooting accuracy or that isn't 40 yards. Either way, a review at 40 yards shooting that pattern, what most see at 10 yards, is interesting.
 
It matters in the sense that the Legion offers nothing. REALLY nothing. The sights aren't set for long range as the front is a large dot. The trigger is just a Sig SRT package that is smoothed over. The Legion gets pricey because of the finish.

In the end, is a Sig 226 or 229 more accurate than a P30, P99, or PPQ trigger? In different respects, absolutely not.

So, we are either in the presence of someone who is in the 99th percentile for shooting accuracy or that isn't 40 yards. Either way, a review at 40 yards shooting that patterns what most see at 10 yards is interesting.
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Sounds like a follow-up verified by impartial observer challenge to me. ; )
 
It matters in the sense that the Legion offers nothing. REALLY nothing. The sights aren't set for long range as the front is a large dot. The trigger is just a Sig SRT package that is smoothed over. The Legion gets pricey because of the finish.

In the end, is a Sig 226 or 229 more accurate than a P30, P99, or PPQ trigger? In different respects, absolutely not.

So, we are either in the presence of someone who is in the 99th percentile for shooting accuracy or that isn't 40 yards. Either way, a review at 40 yards shooting that pattern, what most see at 10 yards, is interesting.
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This is not the case. The trigger on the Legions is not just the Sig SRT trigger. It is version of the Gray Guns P-Series Precision Adjustable Intermediate Trigger. SPAIT for short. The trigger and its engagement with the sear makes for a different animal. The internals and action parts have been micro polished to produce a custom trigger job feel. These are real meaningful upgrades that people paid $500 plus for in the past.

It is basically a Gray Guns spec'd Sig assembled by Sig in NH not Gray Guns. So you are getting a Gray Guns custom Sig run off the Sig lines. It would cost you $1000 plus the base gun to get is done at Gray Guns. So there is some value in the gun if you like the upgrades. Time will tell if the QC is there.
 
The Legion also has a variation of the custom shops AEP package done to it as well as everything mentioned above. The grips are also all new. Mosey on over to the Sig form and you'll see the Legion has shaken up the status quo. My opinion and review of the Legion isn't saying anything that every other reviewer (professionally or amateur) isn't saying about this particular gun. It's extraordinary accuracy has also been established with other shooters in reviews and on YouTube videos. Some guns are certainly more "inherently accurate' especially when they are properly set up. Some shooters may respond to these guns more than others.

We were talking about accuracy over on the Sig Talk forums and no one gun is going to make you an outstanding marksman.

Its the old golfclub saying. You can give a $3K set of golfclubs to a beginner and they will still be in the weeds looking for their ball. But give a golf pro with proper training and experience a $50 garage sale special and they will still make par on every hole.
 
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It's extraordinary accuracy has also been established with other shooters in reviews and on YouTube videos.
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Here's what I don't get. I'm not aware of any additional work being done on the Legion series in terms of fitting for barrel lockup. A number of the stock SIGs that I've owned recently have been recent production and on those pistols the lockup was really as tight as could be on a production pistol. I'm also not aware of them using different barrels for the Legion. So I don't see why the Legion would that much more inherently accurate. I know the trigger is better, but I find it hard to believe it's that much better. Production SIG triggers aren't amazing that's for sure, but in SA they're not typically terrible. I'll have to handle one at my local store and see for myself I suppose.
 
I don't think the Legion barrel or lock-up is more inherently accurate than some of my other production Sigs. I can shoot them just as good when dialed in. Tight lock-ups on some of my more recent Sigs have been outstanding. I think the accuracy comes from more of a combination of other factors like X5 frame cutout, trigger crispness, grips and sights. (in that order). What the Legion is bringing to the Sig owner is its first complete package that is a turn-key production custom gun with a full lifetime warranty. If you own a lot of Sigs, then the X5 frame mod on the Legion will jump right out at you and is worth the cost of admission. I said this before but the guy that is really into Sigs and knows them inside and out will pick up the Legion and notice it's advancements right away. Some mods are just so obvious at first handling. The SRT is so much shorter on the Legion with the adjustable Grays trigger you won't believe it. The standard SRT is fantastic but the Legion SRT is in another league. Double taps and rapid fire is effortless.

Here is a good no bs video review of the Legion
http://youtu.be/sJRjYZhEWK0

I have a P227 full out custom shop gun with custom Sig G10 grips I can shoot as well or better than the Legion 40 because of the softer recoil pulse of the 45acp and more advanced trigger work. This gun is butter smooth even by ground up "custom" standards. I can really tear it up with this P227. It's my goto gun in my CCW class I teach to really shoot the more interesting shots. Even on my worst day when I am not on my game, this gun delivers.
When adding all my mods up on the P227, it cost significantly more than a stock Legion. The only thing I would love to do to this this already incredible P227 would be if Sig had a Legion P227 frame with the X5 cutout on it.


 
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