Sig Sauer Legion P229 range review. "A Legion in the snow" pictorial.
- Thread starter Mystro
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These combat sights cover up most of what I am shooting at so I take the square of the front sight and use it to align with the whole target itself. A full size IPSC target helps a lot. It's like I am aligning 3 points of reference when I shoot. It's a different way to shoot out past 25 yards with combat sights if the target is man size. If I am shooting smaller size targets where I can't use this method, I rely on more muscle and pointing memory.
I practice a lot out to 150 yards with my hunting revolvers that all have open sights.
My greatest long range hunting shot was with my M629 6" barrel using a mid power 240XTP reloaded ammo. It was documented and on the Hornady web site a few years back. They used it in some of their advertising. When hunting, I use the body of the deer the same way I use the IPSC target as a point of alignment. The deer at 175 yards is the width of a M629 6" barrels front sight blade. You just slow your heart rate down, lock it in and concentrate on every aspect of your form and follow through by never dropping the handgun after the shot.
This is what a 175yard deer shot looks like. I was sitting using my knee as a rest while sitting back. She dropped like a stone with the bullet recovered just under the skin on the far side.
I practice a lot out to 150 yards with my hunting revolvers that all have open sights.
My greatest long range hunting shot was with my M629 6" barrel using a mid power 240XTP reloaded ammo. It was documented and on the Hornady web site a few years back. They used it in some of their advertising. When hunting, I use the body of the deer the same way I use the IPSC target as a point of alignment. The deer at 175 yards is the width of a M629 6" barrels front sight blade. You just slow your heart rate down, lock it in and concentrate on every aspect of your form and follow through by never dropping the handgun after the shot.
This is what a 175yard deer shot looks like. I was sitting using my knee as a rest while sitting back. She dropped like a stone with the bullet recovered just under the skin on the far side.
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Thank you. This sounds stupid but, I see the bullet hit the target as I shoot. Almost like I am wiling it to its destination. It's corny but this was how I learned to shoot a long bow when I was a small child. The same principles apply to shooting a bow as it does a handgun.
In IPSC competition we were required to have our front sight taped over for some stages. I got so accustomed to point shooting the 1911 that any handgun that simulates that same angle, I can point shoot rather well. A Glock on the other hand I have to rely on the sights more and always shoot high when fast point shooting because I always fall back to muscle memory on how I point a handgun. This is why I like HK, Sigs and other pistols that stay with the John Browning grip angle . I tend to not shoot my Glocks much for that fundamental reason.
In IPSC competition we were required to have our front sight taped over for some stages. I got so accustomed to point shooting the 1911 that any handgun that simulates that same angle, I can point shoot rather well. A Glock on the other hand I have to rely on the sights more and always shoot high when fast point shooting because I always fall back to muscle memory on how I point a handgun. This is why I like HK, Sigs and other pistols that stay with the John Browning grip angle . I tend to not shoot my Glocks much for that fundamental reason.
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Distance is only a mind game. I know that is easy to say but your a seasoned good shooter and if you can do it at 50yards, your form is good enough to do it at 100 yards. I guarantee it. Its fun to practice that far and when you go back to shooting 15 yards, it feels like a chip shot. That is what makes this sport/hobby fun and never boring.
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wild cat mccane
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That isn't 40 yards.
Really?...This is getting unnecessarily juvenile.
I have no need to lie. My integrity and reputation is quite sound to not need to play this game with you. There is a couple of Youtube videos out there of myself shooting other handguns live in case you think I am not actually shooting those groups.
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No kidding, minimum 12 months to get Jim Garthwaite to go a full-up custom 1911 or BHP. I know a guy who has 1 of each these are fantastic shooting pistols! I'd hold on to those 3 you have.
Great article from his website;
http://www.garthwaite.com/assets/docs/guns_of_garthwaite.pdf
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I started out with Jim when he did my first IPSC Limited gun when I was a sponsored IPSC shooter back in the early 1990's. It was a 10mm 1911. I believe it was his first ever 10mm Colt at the time. His dog loved me since I stopped by often. I haven't seen him in years. Those days it was even harder to get a gun done because there was a huge interest in the IPSC shooting sport. This was pre internet and before there were any turn-key customs so everybody that was serious had to have a custom 1911 Limited gun done by one of the few Gunsmiths and be selected to get a gun made. It was time consuming and expensive back then. Many of the guys I shot against ended up with TV shows when the sport went mainstream. It was a very close tight knit community of shooters back then. Everyone knew everyone and we all fought for sponsors just to afford to play the game. Hardly any egos after the matches. What a different sport it has become.
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QUOTE: Guys, no need to argue over if he was true to his word about 40 yards. Honestly who cares?
I, for one, care in the sense that there's a lot of difference between forty yards and forty feet and group sizes should reflect that considerable difference. Though I take Mystro at his word and enjoyed his interesting review of the SIG "Legion"pistol, when I look at the photo he provided I can understand why wild cat mccane believes the target is a whole lot closer to the shooter than forty yards.
For the last several decades I have routinely shot the slow fire stage of Bullseye at fifty yards and have a good idea of what a target looks like at that distance. My guess is that the photo in question was taken in a way that distorts the perspective of the viewer. Pictures can "lie" if the angle position is skewed in terms of depth of field perception.
I, for one, care in the sense that there's a lot of difference between forty yards and forty feet and group sizes should reflect that considerable difference. Though I take Mystro at his word and enjoyed his interesting review of the SIG "Legion"pistol, when I look at the photo he provided I can understand why wild cat mccane believes the target is a whole lot closer to the shooter than forty yards.
For the last several decades I have routinely shot the slow fire stage of Bullseye at fifty yards and have a good idea of what a target looks like at that distance. My guess is that the photo in question was taken in a way that distorts the perspective of the viewer. Pictures can "lie" if the angle position is skewed in terms of depth of field perception.
Freethought
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In the end I think it is a great package. I was skeptical at first but then I looked at the total break down of the pistol and compared it to a Gray Guns custom and there is a lot of value in these pistols.
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The trigger , guide rod and some parts come from Bruce. I've got a slew of Sigs with Gray-Guns parts and mods. The Legion is a pretty good piece of work right out of the box , right up there with sidearms costing a hell of a lot more.
And since the OP made me salivate , well a Legion 229 is on my short list and will likely be the next catering to my Sig fetish.
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The trigger , guide rod and some parts come from Bruce. I've got a slew of Sigs with Gray-Guns parts and mods. The Legion is a pretty good piece of work right out of the box , right up there with sidearms costing a hell of a lot more.
And since the OP made me salivate , well a Legion 229 is on my short list and will likely be the next catering to my Sig fetish.
And the Legion has a factory lifetime warranty. For a production custom, that's worth a lot for those of us that keep our guns and never sell them. Typically once you start doing any trigger or action work on a gun that is not authorized from the manufacturer, your factory warranty is void.
Sorry to be the enabler.
This is a macro from the top of my slide. Fit and finish and the level of details on the entire gun is first rate.
Sorry to be the enabler.
This is a macro from the top of my slide. Fit and finish and the level of details on the entire gun is first rate.
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GaryWWhite
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I had not heard of the Legion and went on line and looked at a You Tube video on the firearm. These appear to be really fine weapons. I am a Sig fan owning a P229 SS Elite in 9mm. Thanks for your post..
stagpanther
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Nice review--though I'm not sure if I'm more impressed by your shooting prowess or the quality of the gun. : )
Tactical Jackalope
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This sounds about right. SIG Sauer is my favorite manufacturer by far. The P226 and P229 I own have gone through the ringer as well. Dirt and mud, with some water here and there. They're top notch. Almost a decade strong. Nice review to read! Love the pics as well. Thank you.