Should this forum be split into one for bolt and one for lever rifles?
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stubbicatt
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From my viewpoint, the splitting off of the semi autos made navigation of the rifle forums on this site much easier. The traffic on this combined bolt action/lever action forum is not so great as to merit further division. It is not difficult as it is to peruse the contributions by title and explore those that interest me, just the way it is.
Gunplummer
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Lever guns are just "In" right now. It will slow down after a bit.
Pathfinder45
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Yeah, I think it's good enough already. I like that semi-autos have their own space. I like levers and bolts the best and have but little interest in semi's other than Marlin rimfires.
Blindstitch
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Big waste of time splitting anything. Sure I might view all the posts in all the sections but unless all manufacturers start making pumps and lever guns it's a waste of time.
That would be like saying we need to split the shotgun section into pumps, over/under, sidebyside, auto, break action single, lever actions and what ever other funky styles that exist.
I'm a moderator on a motorcycle forum and several members were concerned about the meet up or local area invite sections that it went from being East, West, South and Midwest to about 12 sections. Now nobody visits them that much because it's to hard to tell where locations fit without evolving to every state and that would be an even bigger pain.
That would be like saying we need to split the shotgun section into pumps, over/under, sidebyside, auto, break action single, lever actions and what ever other funky styles that exist.
I'm a moderator on a motorcycle forum and several members were concerned about the meet up or local area invite sections that it went from being East, West, South and Midwest to about 12 sections. Now nobody visits them that much because it's to hard to tell where locations fit without evolving to every state and that would be an even bigger pain.
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Keep it as-is.
As mentioned above, once you break things down too far, you end up with minimal traffic in each forum. And the lower the amount of traffic, the lower the participation.
...Because people often end up selecting just a handful of sub-forums to regularly check, and there's little 'cross-over' from people with different interests.
So, for example, even though "Billy Bob" might have heaps of knowledge about, say, Marlin 336s, he might never know that there's a thread where he could be a big help; because all he ever checks are the General Discussion, Bolt Action Rifle, and NFA forums before, moving on to videos of milk-sodden kittens on YouTube.
As mentioned above, once you break things down too far, you end up with minimal traffic in each forum. And the lower the amount of traffic, the lower the participation.
...Because people often end up selecting just a handful of sub-forums to regularly check, and there's little 'cross-over' from people with different interests.
So, for example, even though "Billy Bob" might have heaps of knowledge about, say, Marlin 336s, he might never know that there's a thread where he could be a big help; because all he ever checks are the General Discussion, Bolt Action Rifle, and NFA forums before, moving on to videos of milk-sodden kittens on YouTube.
I don't see where splitting the rifle forum into "bolt" and "lever" is a bad thing. They are two different types of rifles, and two forums would make it easier to find specifically what you want.
If I'm looking for an opinion on a Browning BL 22 or Chiappa 92, it's easier for me to go to the lever forum and see what's there.
Conversely, if I'm looking for the latest on the Remington 700, then it's easier to find on the bolt gun forum.
As always, YMMV.
If I'm looking for an opinion on a Browning BL 22 or Chiappa 92, it's easier for me to go to the lever forum and see what's there.
Conversely, if I'm looking for the latest on the Remington 700, then it's easier to find on the bolt gun forum.
As always, YMMV.
Why would they be less trafficked? A person interested in bolt guns is going to look in the bolt gun forum. A person interested in lever guns is going to in the lever forum. It seems to me the amount of traffic would remain the same.
Where it would become cumbersome is if you started breaking down forums by brand name.
If less traffic is a problem, then semi auto long guns should go back into the rifle forum.
Some changes I see as practical are melding the Harley Nolden forum into the Curio and relics Forum (or vice versa) as they generally are about the same subjects, and doing away with the SWAT Magazine forum since nobody seems to care about.
As always, YMMV.
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I'd vote for going easy on the Moderators.Whatever that is.
I can understand that there is a lot of energy about AR's and other semi-autos.
I can understand how folks who appreciate the more wood and steel sort of traditional hunting rifles might prefer not to sort through the Black rifle stuff.
So,I can see the accommodation of the semi-auto section.
I just do not see the need for getting too complicated.
I'm perfectly happy with status quo.
I can understand that there is a lot of energy about AR's and other semi-autos.
I can understand how folks who appreciate the more wood and steel sort of traditional hunting rifles might prefer not to sort through the Black rifle stuff.
So,I can see the accommodation of the semi-auto section.
I just do not see the need for getting too complicated.
I'm perfectly happy with status quo.
Mike Irwin
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At the time these forums were split a few years ago, we opened up discussion to members who used the forum regularly.
There were a lot of good suggestions, and there were a lot of suggestions that would have broken the rifle forums down into an incomprehensibly huge number of forums, some of them so specialized that they never would have been used.
Staff also discussed the matter -- at GREAT length -- among ourselves.
The current organization did not happen because we had better things to do so we decided to slap this here, throw that over there, and toss something else back behind the sofa.
It was well reasoned, well discussed, and bolstered by the opinions of members.
We don't make those kind of changes lightly here at TFL, and once we do, there needs to be a LOT of compelling evidence that such a change is in the best interests of TFL and its membership.
Personally, at this moment in time, I don't believe -- no matter what the vote tallies are -- that such a move is either warranted or prudent.
I can assure everyone, however, that staff will discuss this thread, and if the majority think such a move is prudent, and the moderators currently assigned to the rifle forums agree, that a change MAY be made.
There were a lot of good suggestions, and there were a lot of suggestions that would have broken the rifle forums down into an incomprehensibly huge number of forums, some of them so specialized that they never would have been used.
Staff also discussed the matter -- at GREAT length -- among ourselves.
The current organization did not happen because we had better things to do so we decided to slap this here, throw that over there, and toss something else back behind the sofa.
It was well reasoned, well discussed, and bolstered by the opinions of members.
We don't make those kind of changes lightly here at TFL, and once we do, there needs to be a LOT of compelling evidence that such a change is in the best interests of TFL and its membership.
Personally, at this moment in time, I don't believe -- no matter what the vote tallies are -- that such a move is either warranted or prudent.
I can assure everyone, however, that staff will discuss this thread, and if the majority think such a move is prudent, and the moderators currently assigned to the rifle forums agree, that a change MAY be made.
RIDE-RED 350r
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My opinion, I would like to see it broke into 2 new categories.. Bolt rifles (being that bolt rifles are hugely popular) in one category, and then lever and pump action in the other. I think that would be a good balance. Other forums I frequent that will remain un-named have things broken down similarly, and I like that I can browse categories in this way. Some take it even further, breaking the levers down by brand and model between Winchester and Marlin. I think taking it that far is not necessary, but it seems to work for them.
Just my opinion, but that doesn't mean I'll quite coming here if it doesn't change. Keep up the good work Mods.
Just my opinion, but that doesn't mean I'll quite coming here if it doesn't change. Keep up the good work Mods.
I think bolt and levers should be split. They mostly don't cross over and where they do there is always the general forum. It just makes sense.
As it is half is useless to most. It's too junky.
Also it wastes everyone's time when a thread is titled vaguely.
I've seen forums that are fragmented too much but this isn't one of them. It has enough traffic to work better split between levers and bolt actions.
I think conservative people tend to resist change by definition.
As it is half is useless to most. It's too junky.
Also it wastes everyone's time when a thread is titled vaguely.
I've seen forums that are fragmented too much but this isn't one of them. It has enough traffic to work better split between levers and bolt actions.
I think conservative people tend to resist change by definition.
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