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I don't fully understand your description.

Let's ignore 'clicks'; they have nothing to do with the half cock and full cock hammer positions. Those positions are defined by the sear engaging the notches on the hammer, not by the noises the action parts make.

The first hammer position is full down. The second one is half cock, and it's characterized by the trigger dropping into the first notch on the lower part of the hammer body. In terms of hammer movement it's between a third and two thirds of full hammer movement between hammer down and full back.

To me, this description:
It is the first click that allows you to spin your cylinder to the right just as if you barely pulled on the hammer to release the cylinder stop so you can move it freely.
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is not half cock, and it sounds to me like normal operation. The 'click' you're hearing is the trigger leg of the trigger/bolt spring dropping out of it's detent on the face of the trigger. If I understand the description.

I don't understand the next sentence:
Now all it does is goes into half(safety) where the cylinder moves half way between chambers and hammer position
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Does the hammer reach a position at some point approximately 1/3 to 2/3 of the distance between full down and full back in which it is not possible to move it forward either by pulling the trigger or pushing it forward?
 
I tore it down and the spring did not seem to quite reach the top notch on the trigger. I replaced it with one longer but the gun started jamming. I figured it might be too long so I took it back out. It appears I need a new sear spring. Also,(a while back, when I replaced hammer hands, they were too long and would jam the cylinder but I filed them. Now I'm getting that jam again every 8 or 9 cocks. Hell, life's too short--if I get more parts they probably won't fit right. Man, this is a tough hobby but I guess I'm stubborn enough to eventually figure it out---with your help/thanks.
 
I fixed it! Thanks !!! The screw on the left side that supposedly supports a shoulder stock that I said you can grease the hammer hand when it's opened. That screw only has 3 threads and goes in less than 1/20 inch to seat flush in the channel that hammer hand moves up in. Now I never had one of these with shoulder attachment and I guess it could only fit on top of the protruded screw head. Anyway after squirting just a little grease plug grease in that hole the action is like greased lighting. One more question. Is it normal to order parts that don't fit and you have to rework them. The 2 hammer hand assemblies we got were too long and I honed them so they could rotate the cylinders in 2 guns. If I hadn't shortened them the hammer wouldn't even budge! Is this typical (Or did I get parts by mistake for another type)--since I've got to learn as much as I can soon. And I have -thanks to you--I guess you really are picking out a good name for me now!!:} Or just wishing I'd fly away somewhere else. Like I said it has been 25 years or so (Up until several months ago) I fooled with these things. I 'm sorry I frustrated everyone. I still think I like that grease though?!
 
Is it normal to order parts that don't fit and you have to rework them.
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Yes. The original guns were all hand fitted the same way - filing and shaping each piece. The craftsmen who did the job had many years of experience as apprentices before being promoted to working the final assembly as journeymen. We get promoted much more quickly.
 
I'll ask one more ? before I change my name. And I'm goin to. I certainly don't want to offend anyone of you. Since my wife entered me in here she'll have to show me. But she's always busy doin somethin else. We have a stainless steel 1858 (Palmetto) 44c 8". Pietta has gone 500+/- on these. Uberties are hard to find in this model now. Is that Palmetto worth at leat 400 retail or more--or less. It looks the same as the Piettas. I even think Pietta is stamped on it but it is a Palmetto. Tell me please
 
The stock screws on the Armys are a real source of irritation for me. They fall just where the base of my fore finger rubs on the frame. Took them out, chucked the threads into a 3/8" drill and turned the edges down into a more rounded profile. Problem solved.
I am a fan of the Pettifogger conversion of the hands and springs.

RK65, Anyone that carries a Walker in a cross draw is a real man.
 
I wouldn't have a Palmetto revolver at any price, so to me it's certainly not worth $400.

Ive researched blue books and found that they don't list any values for any Palmetto products, simply referring the reader to the factory for information. Since the factory apparently no longer exists, the link is useless.

I'm confused by your statement that the gun is marked Pietta but it's actually a Palmetto. That makes no sense. What do you base that on?
 
We have a stainless steel 1858 (Palmetto) 44c 8". Pietta has gone 500+/- on these. Uberties are hard to find in this model now. Is that Palmetto worth at leat 400 retail or more--or less. It looks the same as the Piettas. I even think Pietta is stamped on it but it is a Palmetto. Tell me please
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I don't know what it's worth.
One must check prices all around to see the relative value.

Here's Cabela's prices:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...at20712&parentType=category&parentId=cat20712

Here are Uberti's at The Possible Shop:

http://www.possibleshop.com/uberti.htm

A Palmetto made by Pietta? That's an interesting possibility. I'd like to see two of those maker's marks on the same gun. It might even make the Palmetto desirable since most folks have warned against buying Palmetto revolvers, at least certain models. Not that they don't work, but the few reports about them were not flattering for the most part.
 
I swear I saw Pietta stamped on the right side of the barrel or frame. But I will look at it tommorow and make sure. If it is, I'll give all info on it. Actually, the stainless steel has better action all around than the blued ones. I know what I paid for it-just wanted to know market value. I', goin to look real close at it tommorow and let you know. We can't find the Uberties in stock and the Piettas are anywhere from 499 t0 515 retail. So Here's a stainless steel in the display that wants to be sold (at a good price to the customer of course.
Billy
 
I was wrong. It is a Palmetto but it's better than the blued ones. Trigger, hammer & cylinder action is good. Also has adjustable site. Since I'm too stubborn to wear glasses, the stamp looks like it says pietta. Here is why. There is a P then a small stamp and a M. the P is visible, the stamp could be misconstrued as an i.e and the M is worn where both sides of that letter stand out looking like 2 t's and a small stamp follows. With just a glance , it all looks like a PIETTA. but with closer examination it is not.

I dropped the price considerably- but still-it is pretty.

Anyone heard of Dam good Gun Oil. We got some in and I took a bottle home and it smells and feels 100% Olive oil. Ilike to have a few items that you can't get in Wall-Mart- etc. So we get small quantaties of different type stuff. What do you make of this oil. It's greasy as hell!
Billy
 
Pietta's stamp is <FAP><FAP> usually one under the other and connected...also Palmetto stamps are usually a Palmtree in a Circle.
 
Smokin Gun---I have a framed release paper from Appomattox Ct Hs that is signed by General John Bratton. There are few of these and most were signed by Majors ---not Brig Generals. Are you interested in this rare document?

Billy Hickup Hardy
 
Like Fingers said-Palmetto's aint S#$t. I pulled out the three Palmetto 1858 Remingtons we have. When you cock it you can barely get a small forefinger on the trigger. Anyway, the stainless steel one doesn't feel or cock anyway close to the blued ones. It really feels good and everyone likes it. Also we got some 44c palmettos Navy. That is the first gun we sold! And I brought one home fired it about 24 times and it is tight. If you break it down(which I did) You better have some damn good eyes, a strong hand and a good temperment to put it back. Now, Pietta is selling the Johnny Reb 36 -Gunnison type at a real good price that comes in a wooden box . I know= Brass frames are a no-no, but a guy bought it after he was advised about brass frames. It would make a great father's day gift. I looked on traditions site and they have it marked down to around 150 and I bet that box comes with it. We bought it w/box wholesale and sold it . Check it out. It costs for these display boxes retail at least 35+ I'm goin to check the wholesale price on um from traditions and buy some if the're the same ones that I had. The gun looked great and felt good. Much better than the old Navy Arms model made in the 70's. Also, nobody want to reply on "damn good gun oil" Somebody out there. heck I'll just go googlr them and see what they brag about.
 
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Like Fingers said-Palmetto's aint S#$t.
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I did? Is my CRS acting up again? I coulda swore it was Mykeal that said he wouldnt have a Palmetto at any price.

I've had a few Palmetto muzzleloaders (but Not C&B revolvers) back in my Rondy days were pretty good.
 
Yes, I did say that. 'twer me.

That's an overstatement, to be sure, as it has happened that Palmetto produced some nice guns, and any company is capable of producing the occasional lemon. It's just that, compared to the other manufacturers, Palmetto made so MANY lemons....
 
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