Shooter in Montreal - Dawson College (merged threads)

If cops can be everywhere and they aren't legally responsible for my safety, I should be able to legally defend myself. Thank goodness here in Florida I can although not on school property.
 
Why didn't they return fire - with their almost lethal maple syrup snow cones?

My crystal ball just beeped, it's telling me that in the coming days they're going to report that the gun used came from America!
 
The kid who did this had a web site that they have been showing on the news, with a picture of him on it holding a gun and pointing it at the camera. It looks like he thinks a gun is cool gives him power. I hope he now knows a gun can send you straight to hell if you disrespect God and life in any way.
 
I think it's a bit callous to speak of this kind of violent act as a "good thing", and "great fodder". That's how the anti-gun crowd thinks.

It seems like the gun rights supporters are starting to think like the people they despise.
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I disagree. I'm not glad the kids were shot. However they get NO sympathy from me. The Canadians & the rest of the world have been warned about the bull plop of gun-control. If they then decide to go ahead & pass restrictions on gun ownership anyway, they are responsible for what happens.
 
Saw pictures of the shooter on the tube. Great advertisement for firearms ownership. He had a bizaare web site with pictures waving knives and looks like a Beretta storm. Loves to play video games based on Columbine.

A perfect example for banning things - as I bet it will play out.

I do think that scorning folks who don't go down the gun path is stupid. Not every one is a warrior (as many who 'claim' to be on the internet - naming themselves Steelmindwarriordude. It is a personal decision to be such and I can respect folks who don't want to take a life. That's their philosophical choice.

I also, unlike the 'commandos' of the Internet, feel compassion for folks who are minding their own business and are hurt by a lunatic. I look at classes of kids everyday and would feel terrible sympathy for them.

Tough guy crap on the internet does not aid the RBKA cause.
 
Anybody know what kind of gun the guy was using? I saw the picture of him posing with what appears to be a carbine but I couldn't tell from the picture what it was.
 
this 25 year old man should have had more brains than to just go and start blowing people away IMO.... i do agree that the GOTH BS that so many kids these days are buying into is nothing but trouble for us all........... how do people get SO screwed up?


LIFE IS SHORT...... cherish it!!!!!!
 
Kimveer Gill was holding a Beretta CX4 Storm in that picture.

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Mark54g
if there had been one or a few lawful gun owners, this would have gone down differently.
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Agreed..

My take on the article is the idea of the "TRAUMATIZATION" :rolleyes: of the witnesses being so terrible!!

If the "witnesses" had been properly brought up... then they would have had a more adult view of reality by the time they were 14...

If people would get it clear in their minds that society is NOT CIVILIZED and it is stupid to think it is... no one would be traumatized at the mere witnessing of a bloody crime... or at the mere thought of capital punishment...

This is NOT a civilized world... and the only reason we don't have rampant anarchy is the fact that so many people are, in fact, watching...

A good cop who kills a BG is often traumatized... NOT because he killed the BG but because he is second guessing himself as to whether or not he could have, somehow, handled it differently... That too, is crap, because if the BG is dead the good cop did the right thing!!!!!!

The better elements of Society had better wake up to these realities, because witnesses are well on the way to no longer being a sufficient deterrent to crimes committed... The BG's just don't give a damn anymore...

Expect the worst, and society will give it to you...
Expect the best, and society will give you the worst... :rolleyes:

Traumatized my patoot!!! :mad:
 
I do think that scorning folks who don't go down the gun path is stupid. Not every one is a warrior (as many who 'claim' to be on the internet - naming themselves Steelmindwarriordude. It is a personal decision to be such and I can respect folks who don't want to take a life. That's their philosophical choice.
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Well said, but I would add that there is a big difference between wanting to take a life and being prepared to take a life. I don't want to be around people who want to take life, but try to limit my friends to people who are prepared should the need arise. That not internet macho bs, it's just my personal belief that you should prepare for the worst and strive for the best.
 
I disagree. I'm not glad the kids were shot. However they get NO sympathy from me. The Canadians & the rest of the world have been warned about the bull plop of gun-control. If they then decide to go ahead & pass restrictions on gun ownership anyway, they are responsible for what happens.
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Exactly. No sympathy. You can't go obstinately refusing to see that gun bans and restrictions have no effect on criminals and then claim to deserve sympathy when your citizens can't defend against a rampage -- when they have neither the will nor the gear.


-azurefly
 
I do think that scorning folks who don't go down the gun path is stupid. Not every one is a warrior (as many who 'claim' to be on the internet - naming themselves Steelmindwarriordude. It is a personal decision to be such and I can respect folks who don't want to take a life. That's their philosophical choice.

I also, unlike the 'commandos' of the Internet, feel compassion for folks who are minding their own business and are hurt by a lunatic.
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This is not scorning them for not going down the gun path, it's scorning them for willfully remaining as sheep for the slaughter. There is abundant opportunity for anyone in society to observe that when you leave your own defense to others, they fail you, and it all comes down to whether YOU have the capacity to save your own life.

If, as you say, it is "their philosophical choice," then the repercussions belong to them. Are they entitled to the luxury of both choosing to be pacifists, and also protection from predators, provided for them by others? Sorry, if you decide that you want to wander around life in condition white, pretending that bad things can't happen to human beings, and refusing to prepare for any of them, you get what you get when bad things erupt and you are unprepared. Too bad, so sad.

They don't have to become "shooters." They don't have to do IPSC, or go to .50BMG shoots. They don't have to live a gun-lifestyle. But they could get off their duffs and realize that their own lives are their own responsibility, and they could demonstrate that they value their own lives by being willing to defend them with force if that should be necessary.


-azurefly
 
Like I said - easy to be a tough guy on the Internet. I feel sorry for students shot in school. I have sympathy for them. Even if they don't agree with your tough guy posturing.

If you think you are better than someone because you have a gun and they don't and got shot by a nut, good for you. I, however, think such posturing folks are posturing fools and buttholes. :mad:

It is a core value of decent humanity to have empathy for folks who are hurt through the actions of a nut. To blame them and not have sympathy because on that they didn't have an AR-15 slung is so ridiculous as to boggle the mind.
 
Glen E. Meyer I completely agree. This kind of big talk is going to make gun-owners look bad and not to mention it's just sad anyway.

Those students had no choice of their laws and you say it as if it is their fault they were shot because of the laws the politicians passed and the schools rules. That is completely ridiculous.

Imagine if they pass that we can't have weapons and they were rounded up and then the schools law was no weapons of any kind, including pocket knives, then a nut who doesn't agree with the laws decides to shoot up the school and you or your kid has no weapon because of the laws no matter how you view the law. Is this your fault that he's able to shoot up the school?

Sickening.
 
I am a black and white, binary type of guy.

No grey, either a 1 or a 0, right and wrong.

I find myself agreeing with azurefly AND Glenn Meyer, though. What I think about are the pro-self-defense minority of Canada that has had its right to self defense trampled upon by the dictatorship of the majority.

Anyone who voted FOR Canuck gun control, or enforced/endorsed the university policy against firearms, and got shot, I have no sympathy for.

Anyone who would have packed heat for self defense, but was prohibited because the majority of Canadians decided that self-defense was not a valid right, and wound up shot by this looney, has my sympathy.
 
They don't have to become "shooters." They don't have to do IPSC, or go to .50BMG shoots. They don't have to live a gun-lifestyle. But they could get off their duffs and realize that their own lives are their own responsibility, and they could demonstrate that they value their own lives by being willing to defend them with force if that should be necessary.
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YEAH!!! What's the matter with these teenagers and underage shooters anyway?????? :barf: :barf: :mad:

Get a grip. These kids wouldn't have been armed IN OUR COUNTRY EITHER. They wouldn't have been armed in the most enthusiastically RKBA state in the nation. They were in SCHOOL for the love of Pete!!!!!

Funny, how us having the second amendment didn't keep Columbine from happening. It hasn't kept kids from going and shooting up schools all over the country. If gun control doesn't prevent crime, neither does RKBA create a protective aura over every school in an RKBA state.

Sheesh.

Springmom
 
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