Sen. Feinstien (Calif) to intro gun control bill
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Alabama Shooter
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Maybe she is talking about bump firing?
In answer to question number three all politicians are pretty much the same in that regard.
In answer to question number three all politicians are pretty much the same in that regard.
Has to be the slide-fire stock that she is referring to. It doesn't actually make it full auto, it still fires once per trigger pull, but it will simulate full auto. It's a range toy, and there is no evidence that one has ever been used in a crime, and why would you? It only works if you hold it just right and you can't hit anything with it, so...
Spats McGee
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Yeah, in this case, it really does look like it's that "shoulder thingy that goes up" back and forth.
Spats McGee posted:
I would tend to agree that the SlideFire must have been what she was referring to. I had not seen that product before. To us technically savy folks, we know the gun is still firing "semi auto". However, to the "low information" types, they'll see that video, played by our anti gun media of course, as a conversion from semi auto to full auto. Feinstein, Schumer, Durbin, Obama, et. al. will not hesitate to set that video up with the MSM to make it sound as if there is a legal product to turn an AR15 type firearm, or a semi auto AK47 type firearm, into a full auto machine gun. They'll conveniently forget to mention that the BATFE approved of it, other than the qualifier she already used, "legally". Once she introduces her bill, I fully expect to see this device become part of the debate.
I would tend to agree that the SlideFire must have been what she was referring to. I had not seen that product before. To us technically savy folks, we know the gun is still firing "semi auto". However, to the "low information" types, they'll see that video, played by our anti gun media of course, as a conversion from semi auto to full auto. Feinstein, Schumer, Durbin, Obama, et. al. will not hesitate to set that video up with the MSM to make it sound as if there is a legal product to turn an AR15 type firearm, or a semi auto AK47 type firearm, into a full auto machine gun. They'll conveniently forget to mention that the BATFE approved of it, other than the qualifier she already used, "legally". Once she introduces her bill, I fully expect to see this device become part of the debate.
Glenn E. Meyer
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One should support those gadgets as good gun control. A friend of mine put one of those thingees on his AR and it jammed solid as the Rock of Gilbraltar. Another buddy - an engineer - had to heat in a furnance and pound it on an anvil to get it apart (metaphorically). It was a mess.
Glenn E. Meyer posted:
Good info to help gun owners check deeper into these devices prior to spending hard earned money on them, if they are prone to failure and making things into more expensive messes.
However, from the political angle, those things will never be mentioned to the public at large. The truth is what the media determines it to be, unfortunately.
That's why the witness oath in a court of law states: I promise to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and NOTHING BUT the truth, so help me God. Those are suttle but important words in that oath.
Good info to help gun owners check deeper into these devices prior to spending hard earned money on them, if they are prone to failure and making things into more expensive messes.
However, from the political angle, those things will never be mentioned to the public at large. The truth is what the media determines it to be, unfortunately.
That's why the witness oath in a court of law states: I promise to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and NOTHING BUT the truth, so help me God. Those are suttle but important words in that oath.
Tom Servo posted:
We did see full auto's used in a crime known as "The North Hollywood Bank Robbery". That despite a very strict regulation of full auto firearms. We know that Sen. Feinstein is barking up the wrong tree with respect to gun control equaling crime/criminal control. But it's her tree and she's committed to seeing it nurtured and growing.
We did see full auto's used in a crime known as "The North Hollywood Bank Robbery". That despite a very strict regulation of full auto firearms. We know that Sen. Feinstein is barking up the wrong tree with respect to gun control equaling crime/criminal control. But it's her tree and she's committed to seeing it nurtured and growing.
Drummer101
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As far as I can tell from reading around and watch a little of the news it is only the politicians who are supporting this... I have yet to see any news that was antigun or even said the old 94-04 ban did anything.
The only thing I have been seeing has been quotes from politicians that have been shot down.
As of right now the support for any gun law changes seems rather low.
The only thing I have been seeing has been quotes from politicians that have been shot down.
As of right now the support for any gun law changes seems rather low.
FrankenMauser
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Shortly before the Sandy Hook incident, I was doing some research into OKC and the aftermath. Although there were supposed to be restriction put in place, to red flag suspicious purchases, and create a method for tracking purchases... it never really happened.
Only 2 states have any tracking methods currently in place, 'tracking' consists of just copying down the buyer's name/address/quantity/etc, and each county within those states is very spotty with compliance.
There were also supposed to be micro taggants mixed into ammonium nitrate, by the manufacturers, to allow tracing of any used in a bombing. To date, no manufacturer is including taggants in their fertilizer (or even their explosives, if they make both).
Honestly....
It's a lot like "gun control" laws. Lots of talk. A little 'action'. ...and then nothing gets enforced; due to lack of funding, lack of education, or the fact that it's a stupid, ineffective approach to the matter.
How much money did it cost Canada to get rifles registered? How much will it cost to register and fingerprint every American who owns a firearm that Feinstein wants to label as an "assault weapon"? How will they enforce it? There are less than 200K registered machine guns under the 1934 NFA, IIRC. But there are estimated to be more than 6 or 7 million "assault weapons" in the USA. And if they expand the criteria which would classify firearms as "assault weapons", how many firearms are we talking about then? This bill, depending upon how it's written, will have some major hurdles to get over before becoming law. It will have some major funding issues as well. In the meantime, contact your lawmakers, more than once. Ask them why the actions of madmen and criminals should dictate which rights we law abiding Americans should be forced to surrender to the government.
Serious gun control likely to be proposed
This article today in Fox News gives us warning that the Biden gun control commission may be aiming at a lot more than a reinstatement of the 1994 assault weapon ban. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/19/biden-no-joke-on-gun-control/
We all know that Obama has never failed to support any gun control proposal, no matter how severe, ever since his days as a State Senator in Illinois. I think this article warns us that we should not be complacent, especially if our representative in Congress is a normally pro-gun individual who might be inclined to go along with gun control out of hysteria over the Newtown shootings. And other than write yet another letter to my Congressman, I am not sure what else to do that would be meaningful.
This article today in Fox News gives us warning that the Biden gun control commission may be aiming at a lot more than a reinstatement of the 1994 assault weapon ban. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/19/biden-no-joke-on-gun-control/
We all know that Obama has never failed to support any gun control proposal, no matter how severe, ever since his days as a State Senator in Illinois. I think this article warns us that we should not be complacent, especially if our representative in Congress is a normally pro-gun individual who might be inclined to go along with gun control out of hysteria over the Newtown shootings. And other than write yet another letter to my Congressman, I am not sure what else to do that would be meaningful.
Yeah, there will be proposals. At least one Rep and one Senator have both promised to propose new laws in January.
They're not going anywhere. Legislators know that what will get you applause in Washington will get you fired at home. Whatever else those Congress-critters propose, they propose to get re-elected.
By all means, write your Senators and your Representative. It's your right, your privilege, and your way to remind those folks who they work for. But, with the current make-up of the House and Senate, I don't see this happening.
They're not going anywhere. Legislators know that what will get you applause in Washington will get you fired at home. Whatever else those Congress-critters propose, they propose to get re-elected.
By all means, write your Senators and your Representative. It's your right, your privilege, and your way to remind those folks who they work for. But, with the current make-up of the House and Senate, I don't see this happening.
UtopiaTexasG19
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Typical of Fox, another article that says nothing new. It's all still speculation until it's made a formal proposal. The dems. are not stupid and there is no way they will propose the same AWB the second time around. I think they will initially try to hit really hard to "appease" the public knowing full well a lot will get watered down or dropped as time goes on.
It will be telling to see what public statements and positions people such as Harry Reid and John McCain take up. They both opposed a new assault weapons ban after the first one expired and neither one voted to extend the 94 ban. Will they change their positions now, my friends? Inquiring minds want to know.