Secret Laws: Should we be concerned?

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There is a posting on alternet.org which discusses the fact that certain laws are being passed or removed via court rulings under FISA that are not being made public. You can read the text at http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/85807/?page=entire

My opinion is that one of the caveats of an open democracy is that we don't get to do these things. I'd like to hear the opinions of people here. Feel free to ignore the writer's opinions offered in the post and focus simply on the facts.

Text included here for the lazy ;)
Once upon a time, a team of federal attorneys went before the Supreme Court only to discover that their entire case was based on a revoked executive order and therefore moot.

True story. Look it up. Panama Refining Company v. Ryan. The revoked presidential order was understandably missed by the attorneys. The revocation had never been made public -- an example of what legal scholars refer to as "secret law."

Cases like that caused Congress, in the '30s and '40s, to pen legislation aimed at bringing order to the dissemination of vital government information, amid the chaotic complexity of state administrative laws and downright shoddy record-keeping. Congress also established statutes to keep a growing body of secret law in check.

That's how we got the Federal Register Act of 1935, the Administrative Procedures Act of 1946 and the golden key to open government (and investigative reporting) -- the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Those legislative acts exemplify one of the defining features of American government -- the publicizing of laws and regulations. The political philosophy isn't hard to understand. Secret laws are the antithesis of a free and open society, which explains why the first U.S. Congress mandated that every "law, order, resolution, and vote (shall) be published in at least three of the public newspapers printing within the United States."

But, never mind -- for the moment -- the decline of newspapers, and the harmful implications it has for democratic governance. Even more alarming is the underreported increase of unpublicized "secret laws," clandestinely cultivated in recent years.

We're talking everything from secret interpretations of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and opinions from the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) to secret Presidential directives and transportation security orders.

And don't let the word "opinion" throw you off. If, for example, they're "opinions" issued by the OLC -- like the now infamous Yoo torture memos -- those kind of "opinions" are binding on the executive branch.

So, while the Washington press heavy-hitters were analyzing flag pins and pastors, a Judiciary subcommittee hearing was held on "Secret Law and the Threat to Democratic and Accountable Government".

Among the half-dozen or so witnesses to testify was the director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, Steven Aftergood -- one of the nation's preeminent authorities on secret law. What should have been a top-story across the country was rendered invisible by a tsunami of triviality.

Here's some testimony you probably missed:

"There has been a discernible increase in secret law and regulation in recent years" to the point where "legislative intervention" is required to "reverse the growth."

Unsurprisingly, secret law really became entwined with the government during the Cold War. But today, "secrecy not only persists, it is growing. Worse, it is implicated in fundamental political controversies over domestic surveillance, torture, and many other issues directly affecting the lives and interests of Americans."

The law that governs espionage activity has been re-interpreted by the FISA Court, the specific nature of which has not been disclosed to the public?

In August 2007, the American Civil Liberties Union petitioned the court on First Amendment grounds to make public those legal rulings, after redacting classified information. The court denied the ACLU petition, claiming it didn't have the expertise to decide what information should be redacted.

The denial was issued despite it being evident "that there is a body of common law derived from the decisions of the (FISA court) that potentially implicates the privacy interests of all Americans. Yet knowledge of that law is deliberately withheld from the public. In this way, secret law has been normalized to a previously unknown extent and to the detriment, I believe, of American democracy," Aftergood testified.

Other areas of concern: "there appears to be a precipitous decline in publication of OLC opinions in recent years ... In 1995, there were 30 published opinions, but in 2005 there were 13. In 1996, there were 48 published opinions, but in 2006 only 1. And in 1997 there were 29 published opinions, but only 9 in 2007."

"One secret OLC opinion of particular significance, identified last year by Sen. Whitehouse, holds that executive orders, which are binding on executive branch agencies and are published in the Federal Register, can be unilaterally abrogated by the President without public notice."

Such orders mean "Congress is left with no opportunity to respond to the change and to exercise its own authority as it sees fit. Worse, the OLC policy ... implies a right to actively mislead Congress and the public."

Here's something else that's been waaaay underreported. As of January 2008, the Bush administration has issued 56 National Security Presidential Directives on a range of national security issues. Most of those directives have not been disclosed. "Texts of the directives or descriptive fact sheets have been obtained for about a third of them (19)," Aftergood testified. Only the titles have been obtained on 8 of the directives and absolutely no information is available for 10.

Congress has also gotten in on the action, having "participated in the propagation of secret law through the adoption of classified annexes to intelligence authorization of bills, for example."

Aftergood concluded his testimony, rightly observing that "it should be possible to identify a consensual middle ground that preserves the security of genuinely sensitive national security information while reversing the growth of secret laws."

That's why he's pushing for the passage of the State Secrets Protection Act -- S. 2533 -- which aims to balance conflicting interests of secrecy and public disclosure.

"The rule of law, after all, is one of the fundamental principles that unites us all, and one of the things we are committed to protect. Secret law is inconsistent with that commitment."

Of course, whenever someone points out how civil liberties have taken a back-seat in the name of "national security" under Bush, what's the typical response of true believers?

They call talk radio, blog and write letters-to-the-editor about how "liberals" and "leftists" aid and abet terrorists with a naive insistence that America's political leaders adhere to quaint luxuries like long-established Constitutional freedoms.

The old saw -- "loose lips sinks ships" -- has been replaced by another now familiar brain-dead mantra: "if you're doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about." But the metastasizing growth of secret law pulls the rug out from underneath that flimsy argument. And for obvious reason: you can't know what you don't know.
 
Bush and his goons have made a joke of our legal system and constitution, the things he has done are unacceptable even if they are in the name of National Security.

The ACLU is a good group - too bad they aren't interested in defending the 2nd amendment.
 
Didn't Ben Franklin say something along the lines that any society that gives up liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both? I believe those words had a level of prophecy in them which we are beginning to see slowly but surely come true.
 
Alternet, yeah right.

ACLU a good group, yeah right.

My opinion is that if you are into conspiracy theories, enjoy yourself with this one.
 
Didn't Ben Franklin say something along the lines that any society that gives up liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both?

How does a decision of the FISA court limit your liberty?

Franklin also endorsed executive action in intelligence and diplomacy free of congressional and judicial oversight.
 
How would you suggest we maintain effective foreign surveillance publicly?

Laws don't exactly describe tactics.

And frankly, congress should STILL know even if the laws aren't publicly disseminated. That's what they are there for.

I'm not sure I follow that open laws would make foreign surveillance ineffective. Maybe give me an example of what you are thinking?
 
I'm not sure I follow that open laws would make foreign surveillance ineffective. Maybe give me an example of what you are thinking?

The original complaint in this thread is that FISA decisions are not public. FISA court rulings are the legal mechanism by which a great deal of foreign intelligence collection is undertaken.

How would you issue decisions on secret matters to the public while maintaining the secrecy required to continue foreign surveillance?
 
It does not pertain to you unless you are a foreign agent or corresponding with one.

Um, I communicate with people all the time that aren't US citizens. Would be nice to know that my research and dissemination in cryptography, biology, or sociology is or isn't considered trafficking in arms. . .

The quote to look at is in the text: "The denial was issued despite it being evident "that there is a body of common law derived from the decisions of the (FISA court) that potentially implicates the privacy interests of all Americans. Yet knowledge of that law is deliberately withheld from the public. In this way, secret law has been normalized to a previously unknown extent and to the detriment, I believe, of American democracy," Aftergood testified."

The original complaint in this thread is that FISA decisions are not public. FISA court rulings are the legal mechanism by which a great deal of foreign intelligence collection is undertaken.

How would you issue decisions on secret matters to the public while maintaining the secrecy required to continue foreign surveillance?

The complaint isn't asking for details that we are allowed to wiretap joe smith of the ukraine.

But then, the quote to look at for this one is:
That's how we got the Federal Register Act of 1935, the Administrative Procedures Act of 1946 and the golden key to open government (and investigative reporting) -- the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Those legislative acts exemplify one of the defining features of American government -- the publicizing of laws and regulations. The political philosophy isn't hard to understand. Secret laws are the antithesis of a free and open society, which explains why the first U.S. Congress mandated that every "law, order, resolution, and vote (shall) be published in at least three of the public newspapers printing within the United States."
 
The complaint isn't asking for details that we are allowed to wiretap joe smith of the ukraine.

How do you know?

I agree with the sentiment of the second quote. The problem is with the FISA law itself. The COTUS implicitly gives authority over foreign surveillance entirely to the executive.

It would make no sense for the government to bring a matter to the FISA court that is beyond its statutory jurisdiction.

Would be nice to know that my research and dissemination in cryptography, biology, or sociology is or isn't considered trafficking in arms. . .

If this material is communicated overseas, it is open to surveillance by every other government as well. You should not assume that your work has an enforceable protection outside the US.
 
How do you know?

Because of the offer to redact it. Those details are exactly the type of thing that gets redacted.

If this material is communicated overseas, it is open to surveillance by every other government as well. You should not assume that your work has an enforceable protection outside the US.

Not worried about enforceable protection, just that I won't be imprisoned by my own government when I make a breakthrough in factoring primes! (these examples are hypothetical if you are unaware)

I agree with the sentiment of the second quote. The problem is with the FISA law itself. The COTUS implicitly gives authority over foreign surveillance entirely to the executive.

It would make no sense for the government to bring a matter to the FISA court that is beyond its statutory jurisdiction.

But also included in the post were the 56 National Security Presidential Directives. I am just saying that we can have levels of private, your eyes only, and top secret yet still strongly desire oversight.

Additionally, I would be concerned about
"One secret OLC opinion of particular significance, identified last year by Sen. Whitehouse, holds that executive orders, which are binding on executive branch agencies and are published in the Federal Register, can be unilaterally abrogated by the President without public notice."

Such orders mean "Congress is left with no opportunity to respond to the change and to exercise its own authority as it sees fit. Worse, the OLC policy ... implies a right to actively mislead Congress and the public."
 
An excellent example of "secret laws" are the regulations governing airline travel. While some TSA regulations are public, others are not -- including the rules governing the "no-fly list" and the identification regulations.
 
My opinion is that one of the caveats of an open democracy is that we don't get to do these things.

I agree. As John Kennedy once said... "The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society."
 
This is runaway government.

You tell me how we the people are in control if we are in the dark?
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I agree with you

gee I wonder why the GOP will get its a$$ kicked
gee I wonder why I as a conservative left the party(or the party left me)
Gee I wonder why I like Ron Paul......oh yeah that Constitution

those damn details again
 
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I agree. As John Kennedy once said... "The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society."

And John Kennedy would have known all about secrecy, and secretaires. :)

Believe what you want but the present administration is the most open administration ever in the history of the US keeping less secrets that any previous one. It may not be to the point that you want or deserve but each administration becomes less secretive than the last.
 
Bush and his goons have made a joke of our legal system and constitution

RIP Habeas Corpus. What has got me really interested is if the next President will restore the legal system to what it was pre-bush, or if they will continue to build on framework he has laid. To me, that's the real question. If some of these rights aren't restored by the next President, we are going to have a much larger problem.
 
The original intent of our country was that people had rights

ALL people regardless of what nation they belonged too.

the idea that foreigners don't have the same rights as an American Citizen sickens me... doesn't even matter that a foreign government doesn't grant those rights.... our original system of justice says those folks DO have those rights....

Doesn't matter that you are a crazed Islamic terrorist dead set on distroying us, you still should have the SAME rights as any American citizen.
 
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