scored a German Luger
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8MM Mauser
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Awesome gun and I would say that's pretty good shooting for a 101 year old gun. I agree that it's cool it's an Imperial Luger too. There is something inescapably interesting about states that no longer exist and the German Empire is no exception.
Congratulations on the find.
Congratulations on the find.
I have two. One brought back from WWII by my dad (S/42). All matching and paperwork to go with it. The second is a 1916 DWM all matching but has been refinished. This is the one I shoot.
DO NOT dry fire your Luger, they are known to break firing pins. I broke the ejector on my 'shooter' (known weak point). It was not hard to find a new one at Brownells.
I shoot 115 gr reloads with 4.0 gr of Titegroup. No issues with operation.
DO NOT dry fire your Luger, they are known to break firing pins. I broke the ejector on my 'shooter' (known weak point). It was not hard to find a new one at Brownells.
I shoot 115 gr reloads with 4.0 gr of Titegroup. No issues with operation.
Stevie-Ray
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Pretty cool. I have a gorgeous DWM Luger from 1918, that was given to me by the man who liberated it in France. Got the "Captured Enemy Equipment" cert as well. He had it hard chromed after the war, as was a common practice then. It, of course, detracts from the value, for a collector, but it doesn't matter to me as I'd never sell it anyway.
Im very jealous. I went hunting the shops yesterday looking for one. No luck. But, I did end up with a '42 M1911 at a fair price. Hopefully I locate a Luger sometime soon. I passed on one that I should have bought. Like Real Estate, if it seems like a fair deal "Buy It!!".
2ndsojourn
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Boogieman, Lock's gun shop in Philly has a few. Right over the Tacony bridge on Frankford ave. I was just there last Saturday.
Deaf Smith
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I agree Gary. I have an Italian 1934 military pistol, no Nazi marks and a RAAF .38 S&W military WW2 gun. I won't buy a Nazi gun cause no telling how many innocent people were murdered with it.
And since it does not have a Nazi eagle, it must have been brought back after WW1!
Good enough.
Now you can become a THRUSH agent!
Deaf
I am not that purist. I don't go in for Nazi emblems or literature, but guns are amoral; they are "things" and do not, cannot, have any sense of right or wrong.
But refusing to own a "Nazi" gun presents some problems. Any gun made in Europe prior to 1945 could have had a Nazi owner. Those drillings and shotguns taken from German homes by American soldiers were most likely owned by Nazis or Germans who supported the party. And they might not be German guns; in times of peace, German sportsmen bought guns made in England, Spain, the U.S., and other countries. They might not have any swastika mark, but the owner might have been "sieg heiling" at the top of his lungs.
Besides German guns, the German army and Nazi party organizations used captured weapons, even giving an official German designation to the M1911A1 pistol, and making .303 ammunition for captured SMLE's. Such guns were "repatriated" after the war, so that Colt .45 could have been in Nazi hands.
It is very likely that .32 caliber pocket pistols made in Germany in the war years were used by some arm of the German government or the Nazi party. And even gun clubs were controlled by the "Kraft durch Freude" organization and limited to members of the Nazi party, so a "bringback" Walther Olympic had probably been in Nazi hands.
As for Imperial or Weimar era Lugers, they didn't vanish in 1933. They were issued to Nazi party groups, like the SS, as well as to police and, of course, the Wehrmacht. It is pretty safe to assume that any Luger in Germany during the Nazi era was used by the German military, police or Nazi party organizations, no matter what the markings on it or when it was made.
Whether to eschew "Nazi" guns is a personal choice, but I don't see how anyone could collect any representative historical selection of guns from before 1945 and not have any gun that might have been used by a Nazi.
Jim
But refusing to own a "Nazi" gun presents some problems. Any gun made in Europe prior to 1945 could have had a Nazi owner. Those drillings and shotguns taken from German homes by American soldiers were most likely owned by Nazis or Germans who supported the party. And they might not be German guns; in times of peace, German sportsmen bought guns made in England, Spain, the U.S., and other countries. They might not have any swastika mark, but the owner might have been "sieg heiling" at the top of his lungs.
Besides German guns, the German army and Nazi party organizations used captured weapons, even giving an official German designation to the M1911A1 pistol, and making .303 ammunition for captured SMLE's. Such guns were "repatriated" after the war, so that Colt .45 could have been in Nazi hands.
It is very likely that .32 caliber pocket pistols made in Germany in the war years were used by some arm of the German government or the Nazi party. And even gun clubs were controlled by the "Kraft durch Freude" organization and limited to members of the Nazi party, so a "bringback" Walther Olympic had probably been in Nazi hands.
As for Imperial or Weimar era Lugers, they didn't vanish in 1933. They were issued to Nazi party groups, like the SS, as well as to police and, of course, the Wehrmacht. It is pretty safe to assume that any Luger in Germany during the Nazi era was used by the German military, police or Nazi party organizations, no matter what the markings on it or when it was made.
Whether to eschew "Nazi" guns is a personal choice, but I don't see how anyone could collect any representative historical selection of guns from before 1945 and not have any gun that might have been used by a Nazi.
Jim
Deaf Smith
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Yes Jim, but the Nazis usually stamped acceptance marks on their weapons they used or allowed their troops to use.
Hence you see Astra 600s with Nazi eagles, or Belgium made P-35s with Nazi eagles, or Ruby .32s even.
But we do know for sure if they have their acceptance stamps, they most certainly did use them.
For me it's kind of like the crate the Ark of the Covenant was in 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'. God didn't like the Nazi emblems and thus burned them off the crate.... and neither do I want a weapon, or cloths, or swords, or knives, etc.. that were used by them.
I'll take an Italian weapon cause except for the Black Shirts, most Italians were pretty humane and really didn't want that war.
Deaf
Hence you see Astra 600s with Nazi eagles, or Belgium made P-35s with Nazi eagles, or Ruby .32s even.
But we do know for sure if they have their acceptance stamps, they most certainly did use them.
For me it's kind of like the crate the Ark of the Covenant was in 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'. God didn't like the Nazi emblems and thus burned them off the crate.... and neither do I want a weapon, or cloths, or swords, or knives, etc.. that were used by them.
I'll take an Italian weapon cause except for the Black Shirts, most Italians were pretty humane and really didn't want that war.
Deaf
PCP-AirGunTanks
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SWEEET FIND!!!!!
Congratulations!!
I've always loved Lugers (and most other firearms I guess). For some reason, I always liked DWM (Just because I liked saying the name as a kid LOL). My dream has always been to own a carbine Luger. I like the artillery, but the longer barrel and stock look so sweet on a Luger.
I picked up an old Luger very cheap ($300) at a local gun shop. It was re-blued, and one item had a mis-matching serial number, but I figured for $300 I could own a shooter! It shoots very accurately. I might have to take that pistol to the range soon.
Congratulations!!
I've always loved Lugers (and most other firearms I guess). For some reason, I always liked DWM (Just because I liked saying the name as a kid LOL). My dream has always been to own a carbine Luger. I like the artillery, but the longer barrel and stock look so sweet on a Luger.
I picked up an old Luger very cheap ($300) at a local gun shop. It was re-blued, and one item had a mis-matching serial number, but I figured for $300 I could own a shooter! It shoots very accurately. I might have to take that pistol to the range soon.
dakota1911
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Nice find on a piece of history. Wonder what it would say if it could talk?
