The big difference I see between the SCCY and the Kel-Tec is that the internal machining is better on the SCCY, with very few tool marks. Also the Zytel frame doesn't appear nearly as cheap or flimsy. It doesn't appear to need any sort of "fluff n' buff" treatment prior to hitting the range either. Aside from that, yes it appears to be a very close copy. Something tells me Kel-Tec made a mistake by not applying for more patents on their designs, because everyone is copying them.
Sccy 9mm... Great buy or hype.
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Mini range report
I took mine to the range for the first time today, after having given it a quick wipe-down and relube last night. It was better than I expected, as the trigger pull actually wasn't too bad and felt a lot like a revolver. The only downside of course was the fact that the pistol only weighs 15oz. empty, so keeping the muzzle where you want it by the time the trigger breaks takes a little practice. After a few mags I was firing double-taps without much difficulty. The recoil was definitely snappy, but the fat grip does a good job of spreading the recoil across the hand so it wasn't uncomfortable like some ultra-light, ultra-compact mid-bore pistols are. The only thing that did feel uncomfortable was the trigger itself, which has relatively sharp edges that dug into my finger a little during recoil. I'll definitely be looking into seeing if I can round those edges a little. Also the magazines are a real bear to load to capacity, at least while the spring is still new and tight. Last night I struggled to fully load them, and I left them that way overnight hoping the springs would take a set. They did, and reloading them at the range was noticeably easier but still required a loading tool for the last couple of rounds. I tried one mag with the finger rest and one with the flat baseplate, and definitely found the pistol more comfortable to shoot with the finger rest.
Accuracy was good, not spectacular but I don't know how much of that was due to trying to control a feather-light gun with a heavy trigger. I shot slightly to the right but all the shots landed in a pie-plate sized cluster at 10 yards. I tried to shoot up the 200 rounds I brought with me (a mix of 115 and 124gr FMJ) but got too tired after 150 so I quit at that point. There were no malfunctions of any kind, which was definitely a good sign. A couple times I did fail to fully reset the trigger, but that was a me problem, not a gun problem. The pistol jumps quite a bit, especially one-handed (weak-handed I looked like Tom Hanks shooting at the tank in Saving Private Ryan). However I would say that shooting a polymer-framed .40 compact like a Glock 23 is actually worse, to give some baseline of comparison. Of course I wasn't firing +P ammo out of it and probably won't be doing so, even as a carry load. All in all, so far it has done well for such a low-cost pistol.
I took mine to the range for the first time today, after having given it a quick wipe-down and relube last night. It was better than I expected, as the trigger pull actually wasn't too bad and felt a lot like a revolver. The only downside of course was the fact that the pistol only weighs 15oz. empty, so keeping the muzzle where you want it by the time the trigger breaks takes a little practice. After a few mags I was firing double-taps without much difficulty. The recoil was definitely snappy, but the fat grip does a good job of spreading the recoil across the hand so it wasn't uncomfortable like some ultra-light, ultra-compact mid-bore pistols are. The only thing that did feel uncomfortable was the trigger itself, which has relatively sharp edges that dug into my finger a little during recoil. I'll definitely be looking into seeing if I can round those edges a little. Also the magazines are a real bear to load to capacity, at least while the spring is still new and tight. Last night I struggled to fully load them, and I left them that way overnight hoping the springs would take a set. They did, and reloading them at the range was noticeably easier but still required a loading tool for the last couple of rounds. I tried one mag with the finger rest and one with the flat baseplate, and definitely found the pistol more comfortable to shoot with the finger rest.
Accuracy was good, not spectacular but I don't know how much of that was due to trying to control a feather-light gun with a heavy trigger. I shot slightly to the right but all the shots landed in a pie-plate sized cluster at 10 yards. I tried to shoot up the 200 rounds I brought with me (a mix of 115 and 124gr FMJ) but got too tired after 150 so I quit at that point. There were no malfunctions of any kind, which was definitely a good sign. A couple times I did fail to fully reset the trigger, but that was a me problem, not a gun problem. The pistol jumps quite a bit, especially one-handed (weak-handed I looked like Tom Hanks shooting at the tank in Saving Private Ryan). However I would say that shooting a polymer-framed .40 compact like a Glock 23 is actually worse, to give some baseline of comparison. Of course I wasn't firing +P ammo out of it and probably won't be doing so, even as a carry load. All in all, so far it has done well for such a low-cost pistol.
Nakanokalronin
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Unless he's on a fixed budget, there a plenty of higher quality sub-compact 9s on the market. I looked over and shot one for awhile that belonged to someone else. I would rather buy a used quality 9mm for the same price.
deerslayer303
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Nothing wrong with a Sccy. I like them and don't have a problem with the DAO trigger. I believe the recoil is not as bad as say a PF9 because of the width of the grip. Being it's a double stack pistol. Very reliable pistol and pretty accurate when you get used to the trigger. I would buy another without hesitation
The one pictured by SKYZZEM is a Generation one SCCY. They had issues back them. Gen 2 are simply the best hi-capacity pistol for the buck. 1oo% reliable and nice shooting. Their customer service is fantastic. Here is a web board for you to brose...http://www.sccyforum.com/
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Mrgunsngear
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He got a new one.
A good experience
My son bought one 3 weeks ago and loves it. It's been 100% reliable with several types of ammo. He has large hands and the grip fits him well. I look forward to shooting it when he comes home at Christmas. We are both gun nuts with high-end pocket pistols in our arsenals, so we have benchmarks from which to measure. He bought a Galco super-tuck holster and is now carrying his SCCY full time.
Gene Pool
My son bought one 3 weeks ago and loves it. It's been 100% reliable with several types of ammo. He has large hands and the grip fits him well. I look forward to shooting it when he comes home at Christmas. We are both gun nuts with high-end pocket pistols in our arsenals, so we have benchmarks from which to measure. He bought a Galco super-tuck holster and is now carrying his SCCY full time.
Gene Pool
deerslayer303
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The SCCY is a trust worthy hand gun capable of defending your life. Gun snobs just believe you can't possibly have a nice reliable handgun that shoots as good as their over priced plastic for less than 300 bucks. [emoji3]
I've seen cracked frames on nearly all brands of pistols-- from a Bersas to Sigs. It happens for a variety of reasons, not just because of a manufacturing defect. Some of the ammos available today are super hot, and can cause premature failures in handguns. So it's not necessarily the brand of firearm that is the issue.
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LockedBreech
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I don't mind taking chances with a range gun or curio, but for carry and nightstand weapons, I need a much better and longer track record than the SCCY offers. My two cents.
varoadking
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Garbage.
My son arrives this afternoon and is bringing his SCCY. I will get a chance to shoot and compare it with my Sig P290, Ruger LP9, and Beretta Nano. He has expressed his satisfaction with the SCCY thus far (over 100 rounds without a hitch). He and I will put another 300-400 rounds through it shooting metal targets during the next few days. THEN I will post my conclusions. Stay tuned.
Gene
Gene
Cheapshooter
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Looking forward to an objective review based on personal experience, and fact.
Not a one word comment based on nothing but conjecture by someone who has obviously never owned, or probably even fired one!
Like with Hi-Point, just because the SCCY doesn't cost over five hundred bucks doesn't mean it can't be a decent gun.
deerslayer303
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If it did cost over 500 it would be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
LockedBreech
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It always comes back to that argument in threads about cheaper/lesser known guns - that just because it's inexpensive doesn't mean it's junk. That doesn't address the main concerns. The SCCY first gen guns were reportedly extremely problematic and the platform is still very new and unproven. That doesn't mean it's bad, but while a gun being over $500 doesn't make it a good gun, neither does a gun being under that amount. At a super cheap price point, something, somewhere has to give. Maybe it's something that doesn't matter, but it warrants scrutiny. I like my Rugers, but because they're proven and affordable. Just affordable doesn't cut it.
deerslayer303
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See I don't think "proven" should even equate in someone's brand loyalty. How many new guns to the market have the big name companies introduced here recently? Well Ruger for one has alot of Knockoffs and seems they have a cult following and they are hardly "proven". It's brand loyalty. And that's fine, each to his own. I myself have no brand loyalty I like them all. I have my favorites but I don't jump in with both feet to judge a gun based on a few negatives without having personal experience with the piece. And if I did get a bad one is it fair to CLAIM all of a particular line is Junk? A gun is a mechanical object and mechanical things break it's just the nature of the beast.
LockedBreech
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Really? You don't think a proven track record of reliable function should even be a factor? For a tool that may be used to save your life, or the life of a loved one?
Different strokes for different folks. For me, it's easily the biggest factor aside from the reliability of my particular sample. Same reason I drive a Honda Accord. I experiment with food and booze, but not stuff I might be trusting my life with. I didn't buy a single one of my home defense or carry guns until they had been on the market for years.