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48.00 for cci primers at midsouth 60.00 at midway same product.
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As I pointed out in my previous post, there is evidence to suggest the price on Midsouth is merely whatever the price was the last time they had any of those primers in stock, and that it will change when they get some new stock in. That's one reason they aren't allowing backorders. They don't know what it will cost them the next time the factory is able to ship them some. They have CCI BR4 primers at $83.02/1000, which tells you where prices were going the last time that part number came in.
 
hope for the best and plan for the worst, thats what i have done for years on items than may dry up due to things beyond my controll. i,m sitting on all the reloading supplies i need for my hunting-shooting habits due to when i needed one, i bought two.
 
so I see midway has gone down the road like gun broker with the higher prices bye bye harry
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That's the beauty of free-market pricing. Sellers ask what they need to justify selling the product, and customers vote with their wallet. Most sellers don't try to sell for what the customers WANTS TO pay, they sell for what the customer IS WILLING TO pay and still make enough money to wind up with a little more than they started with at the end of the day. They will have to pay the supplier's price to restock, so they want to make sure they are not losing money on each transaction if they want to stay in business.

Also, you may have heard that there is currently a GLOBAL pandemic. That means there is a disease killing people all over the world. Most of our lead and copper come from outside the country due to environmental regulations in the USA, and many of those supplier countries are on lockdown just like us, so production is limited or non-existant and the markets are using up the stockpiles that existed before the pandemic in many cases. When everybody gets back to work, the situation will change again.

And his name is Larry.
 
Capitalism at work. I generally shop a couple places. Obviously I can only buy what is in stock. But with that said I will generally buy from the place that is cheaper that has what I need.
 
Larry Potterfield pioneered the NRA “Round Up” program that has raised $MILLIONS toward the Pro-2A fight (regardless of the unwipable turrd that is WLP amd his crew currently) and Larry Potterfield has been a ridiculous friend to any/all law abiding American gun owners.

So in this little tussle, I’ll go ahead and choose Larry over any crybabies.
 
I reload to be more accurate first secondly to save money. price of all components is going up rem 9n 1/2 went from 32.00 to 60.00 at midway call it what you may no I face HERD HATRED for wanting to reload
 
Neither Midway, Powder Valley, Midsouth, et al, are benevolent enterprises. They are all in it for the money. They have fixed costs and variable costs and know how much they need to survive. Their profit margin on ammunition and reloading components does not allow much wiggle room.

So, when their manufacturing/supply costs increase, they have to pass on the cost to the end user. That's the way it works.

There are scalpers in play now, but the above enterprises are not "scalping", contrary to what the OP is saying.

They are simply following market principles of supply and demand.
 
I just did a couple orders from powder valley--they seem about the same prices as pre-pandemic and MUCH less than everyone else has been charging. They already were my #1 loyalty vendor--but this just reinforces it.
 
Yeah, I'd never bought from PV before all this, but I've bought a bunch of stuff lately. Powder mostly. No primers though.

Large rifle primers popped up a few weeks ago. I started the process to purchase but they ran out even before I got the order in.

The last primers I found online were from Midsouth. 1,000 shotgun primers at normal retail price.

Before that, it was in December 2020. 5,000 small pistol primers from Midway for $216.

The OP is complaining about Midway's high prices. What high prices? They haven't had primers for sale at any price for some time. Except the 50 cal primers they currently have for sale. Apparently, there aren't a lot of 50 BMG shooters out there.
 
What I think is scalping is the charges for shipping--often run up for packing and shipping, especially fast deliveries. Most of the time the packages I get never make it on time, sometimes taking weeks and sometimes arriving in taped-together or re-used boxes with little packaging material to protect the contents. Then it becomes a game of "stalking" the delivery driver so you are there to refuse the delivery if the package is badly damaged. "Your package has shipped" means "we have printed a label" and does not necessarily mean it has actually left the shipper.
 
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It's nice to know that I can drive less than 10 miles from home and get the powder I need for a decent price and not have to deal with out of stock or hazmat/ shipping charges on top of the price and tax.

Bill
 
But I also might remember Midway has given fair and reasonable prices on most everything over the years. Not necessarily the cheapest,but fair and reasonable.
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At one time the shipping was fair, the prices were fair and I really do not care a whit if they are so called supportive or not. I prefer business that focus on service not into the rest.

then they refused to ship at the lowest rate. Lower 48 types are spoiled both for shipping as well as you can order powder and primers at a decent rate.

Shipping cost are a huge issue for AK.

I will only deal with Midway if they have something I can't get elsewhere or its a bargain.

And yes I worked around FedEx and UPS and I know very well what their rates for companies and the deals they get and I don't take at all kindly to a company getting a great rate and charging walk in prices.

Midsouth ships me stuff via USPS flat rate and I thank them and they have my business.
 
That is the way capitalism works. I bet anything Midway has can be bought at MidSouth, Natchez, Brownells, Blue Collar reloading, Creedmoor etc etc etc. Buy at the best price and remember the vendors that took advantage of hard times
 
Midsouth ships me stuff via USPS flat rate and I thank them and they have my business.
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I use Midsouth a lot too--except during the pandemic they don't have anything. I suspect many of stores hold back on their stock and sell to retail customers first as a priority if they have a brick and mortar outlet.

Midway starting using Pitney Bowes for budget mail services that hand off to the USPS--it totally sucks and I've had packages take weeks, even months to find their way to me, though to be fair almost nothing gets to me on time these days no matter what shipping service is used. I think as long as the pandemic and weather remain variables shipping times are "just be glad you eventually receive it and it's not lost." Damage to packages of course tends to go up the longer it takes. Any time you get a hand-off from UPS or fedex to the usps--the odds go up that your package will be lost/delayed/damaged.
 
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Just received my 3rd notice from UPS that my shipment is being delayed due to "delayed trailer"--which is odd because their tracking showed it having crept all the way to the USPS induction center not far away--and now that has vanished off their tracking info. What ends up happening is if you give up--and then the shipper sends you a replacement regardless how long the package goes missing--you can end up being double billed if it does finally show up--even if it's months later. Then it's up to you to bargain with the shipper if you can get anything back without a restock/shipping fee.
 
Lol, Midway scalping? Come on Man! Have been buying from Midway for many years. Always great service and fair prices. Larry Potterfield is part of the gun culture most of have come to love. A straight up guy from everything I have seen in all these years.
Midway is just like almost all internet vendors. Most do not even have any ammo to sell.
The ammo shortage is a crisis for gun owners. No need to start throwing rocks because you do not like Price. I imagine he hates the shortage as much as I do and the rest of us as well.
 
stagpanther: I hope your shipment didn't go through northern Indiana a couple days ago on FedEx. One of their trucks got walloped! Nothing on that truck survived.
 
Midsouth, Grafs, and Powder Valley have all had various powders drop the last two days. All have been priced close to pre covid prices. Hodgen at $30 to $35 a pound, VV around $40 and Shooters World and Accurate in the low to mid 20's. I got a 8 pounder of Accurate 2520 last week from PV at $186 and Midway's price is $210 (not in stock). Most people have not jacked their prices up, unfortunately Midway has chosen to do so not just on powder but across the board
 
Every price increase is not gouging. What was Midway's price for Accurate 2520 before they "jacked it up"?

FWIW, I bought a 4 pounder of W231 from PV for $81.50 in September, 2019, only 3-4 months prior to the Covid panic. Although currently out of stock, their latest price is $93. Do you consider that price gouging? No, and neither do I. Things have gone up.
 
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