S&W Stainless Factory Finish Horrid

Dragline45

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Is it just me or does anyone else think the brushed factory finish on S&W stainless revolvers is absolutely horrid. Some revolvers I seen have such random uneven brush strokes in the metal it looks like the thing was thrown into a tumbler with heavy steel wool. Just think its kinda crazy to spend $600+ on a new gun from them only to get it with a mediocre finish. What I think is even crazier is I went to sell my model 60 at a gun shop which I had spent hours polishing and was a perfect mirror finish with no scratches. They wanted to give me less because it didn't have the factory finish, long story short the guy in line behind me bought it for a hell of allot more than the shop did partly because he liked the finish so much.
 
Actually on the model 60 when they first came out many years ago
some were issued from the factory with the mirror finish.....

On the Ruger-I do like the mirror finish they put on their Vaquero's
from the factory.....

In the old days most US manufactures were soooooo quality on their
finishes.....miss that.....I guess profits & the economics of the Ivory
Towers has changed that forever. I had a S & W Model 36 from the 60's
40+ years ago and I still remember the mirror blue factory finish
the old masters put on them. I had a Colt DS as well from that era.
The factory nickel on that gun was also unbelievable. Seems that
type of quality is all but history now, although I think Ruger's revolvers
are the best now.....

New materials in plastic & metals now seem to rule the markets. Sure
would like to see that good ol' fashoned US quality steel finishes again.
 
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I agree on the declining quality of finishes in general, but .... if we want that type of finish, and coincidentally, the time in expert labor to achieve it, we'll have to settle for guns that cost a heck of lot more than they do now. Rod
 
In my opinion, we are getting the lousy finishes, lousy triggers......and lousy guns, because too many of us are willing to "settle" for them.

If folks didn't buy these guns, S&W would improve their quality - right quick.

I'm always amused by the argument that if the manufacturer, S&W in this case, improved the quality of their products, the products would "cost a heck of alot more". Last time I checked, S&W are already asking exhorbitant prices for the current crap revolvers they are currently producing.

Buy what you will. I will spend my money buying the superior guns S&W produced in the past, for less money than the asking price of current revolvers too! :) Regards 18DAI.
 
I only care about how a gun shoots; it must be reliable, and offer me controllable accuracy.

Looks don't have any affect on its purpose. Unless, of course, the gun is purchased as artwork to look at.
 
Horrid is a bit strong.

I would agree with you if I said the same thing 10 years ago but in the past few years the finish on their revolvers has gone way downhill, from the heavy uneven brush strokes on one part of the gun not blending in with the rest, to the what looks like a random swirling motion they use when brushing it. I can and have refinished stainless firearms with different grades of scotchbrite pads and wet and dry sandpaper and accomplished a much better looking brushed finish than the factory does, only problem is it takes alot of time and trial and error. Point im trying to make is I should not have to refinish a brand new gun, which is why I don't plan on buying a new production smith. Also I should not have to pay $150 to have a brushed satin finish put on my gun by the performance cetner shop when it should have been like that in the first place.
 
I only care about how a gun shoots; it must be reliable, and offer me controllable accuracy.

Looks don't have any affect on its purpose. Unless, of course, the gun is purchased as artwork to look at.

That depends on what it's for and how much it cost. Sure, how it shoots is paramount but a nice gun has a nice finish. I'm not saying I agree about S&W's finishes but it's still part of the over all quality of any gun.



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Exterior finish is labor intensive to do properly, even more so on a blued gun. We want pretty finishes, we will have to pay more.
 
I want them to perform well and look good, that isn't too much to ask for is it?

I prefer to buy older S&W's for many reasons, but I also want to own a XVR460 so I don't have much of a choice in that one. I can go around to different shops and check the fit and finish on it, but I can't buy an older version of it.

I did see a Ruger .44 Magnum at my FFL's the other day. What caught my eye was the satin finish. I was looking the gun all-over before I even knew I was holding a Ruger. That gun had an amazing finish!
 
Hmm. Trying to decide if this is one of those "Smith & Wessons suck ever since they unpinned the barrels, MIM'd the internals, and particularly, put the @#$%ing lock in the gun" threads. I've more or less decided that it is.

Well, anyway, here's my lock-equipped 625JM. It's got a little wear on it after several years of heavy use but, best as I can tell, the finish is pretty near perfect.

Ah, well, as the words to the song go: "if you can't please everyone you might as well please yourself." :p
 

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Dragline45

Are you some type of gun inspector? How do know what know? Do you go from shop to shop and inspect new S&W revolvers?
 
Are you some type of gun inspector? How do know what know?

This was the process I used to come to my conclusion

Step 1: examine older smiths in gun case
Step 2: examine new smiths in gun case
Conclusion: new finish is sloppy

Doesn't take a gun inspector to tell they are putting on a crappy finish nowadays

Do you go from shop to shop and inspect new S&W revolvers?

Yup thats exactly what I do, looking at pictures on the internet might work for you but I like that up close and personal approach.
 
Dragline is correct. I recently handled a brand new 66 in the store and it looked like crap. Full of tool marks and scratches. What happened to Smith and Wesson?:eek:

As far as commenting on appearance, "when the gun is new it should look nice". When they skimp on one aspect they are more than likely skimping elsewhere.

I believe the reason these manufacturers are getting away with this is "new customers". Not everybody has a history with guns and is able to compare otherwise. I'm not mentioning names, but they seem count on first time buyers rather than return customers. Loyalty is lost if it is not needed for sales. Marketing over quality seems to be the avenue of choice these days.
 
Do you go from shop to shop and inspect new S&W revolvers?


Yup thats exactly what I do, looking at pictures on the internet might work for you but I like that up close and personal approach.

I'm heading to the range/gun store right now, I'll take a quick look.
 
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