The Redhawk would have been my choice. The GP100 is too small for a 10mm that you want to shoot full power 10mm loads, Clements states on his site, These guns tend to be very accurate with .40's and 10's and will handle most all commercial ammo. This is a medium frame gun and should be treated as such. Ammo which is loaded to maximum pressure levels should be used sparingly." Clements does quality work and can work this close to the edge but I don't see the lawyers at Ruger thinking that would be a great idea to do on a production basis. The cylinder is just too small on a GP100 for a 6-shot 10mm. Smith used the N frame when they made the 610 for I am sure the same reasons, size and strength.
Ruger Super Redhawk 10mm Revolver
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SonOfScubaDiver
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FrankenMauser
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I think that's a bunch of crap, even from Clements.
I just spent a little time looking at and measuring my GP100 and SRH. I came to a single conclusion:
They did it for moon clip clearance with the larger SRH cylinder. The GP could do it, but it's easier with the SRH.
In my opinion, strength is a non-issue.
At 37,500 psi, 10mm Auto runs just a hair over .357 Mag and .44 Mag max pressure (35k psi, and 36k psi, respectively).
If you can run .44 Mag or .357 Mag, you can run 10mm.
Have you seen how thin the cylinder walls are on the original and third-release .480 Ruger SRHs (6-shot versions)?
Maximum thickness is 0.096". Between chambers, it's just 0.040".
The same goes for .327 Federal in the LCR: Just 0.092" maximum, with 0.052" between chambers.
...And those two aren't something to take lightly. .480 Ruger SAAMI MAP is 48,000 psi, while .327 Federal is spec'd at 45,000 psi.
There's plenty of meat in a GP cylinder - especially the .44 Special version.
I just spent a little time looking at and measuring my GP100 and SRH. I came to a single conclusion:
They did it for moon clip clearance with the larger SRH cylinder. The GP could do it, but it's easier with the SRH.
In my opinion, strength is a non-issue.
At 37,500 psi, 10mm Auto runs just a hair over .357 Mag and .44 Mag max pressure (35k psi, and 36k psi, respectively).
If you can run .44 Mag or .357 Mag, you can run 10mm.
Have you seen how thin the cylinder walls are on the original and third-release .480 Ruger SRHs (6-shot versions)?
Maximum thickness is 0.096". Between chambers, it's just 0.040".
The same goes for .327 Federal in the LCR: Just 0.092" maximum, with 0.052" between chambers.
...And those two aren't something to take lightly. .480 Ruger SAAMI MAP is 48,000 psi, while .327 Federal is spec'd at 45,000 psi.
There's plenty of meat in a GP cylinder - especially the .44 Special version.
Creek Henry
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The 480 or 44 would be more versatile
Mr.RevolverGuy
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Aren't all Super Redhawks built this way or did they do something special for the 10MM. Gosh why not the Redhawk. I was getting ready to send my 3inch gp100 out for the conversion but think I might wait and see what comes next.
FrankenMauser
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Yea, that's standard SRH.
Conversion to 10mm MAGNUM is the point of this exercise.
http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt10mag.htm
Conversion done, ... you'll have one wheelgun capable of shooting the .40S&W, 10mm AUTO, and 10mm Magnum cartridges, all using the same moon clips.
It's called a 3-in-1 fun toy. Heavy? Yeah, but with the 10mmMag option and being scopable, it has definite and potent hunting use.
EDIT: attached a pic of a 6.5 S&W 610 which had its cylinder chambers converted to accept 10mm Mag cartridges.
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black mamba
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Don't forget the 10-12 pound single action trigger pull, either.
They love weight, but not lawyers.
FrankenMauser
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Yea....... I don't think that's what Ruger had in mind.
If they had it would say "10mm Magnum" and Hornady would be selling factory ammo.
TruthTellers
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And I'm sure all this could be done in a 5 shot GP100.
DT sells 10mm Magnum 'factory' ammo,
, but this cartridge is 99% a reloading proposition in order to maximize on-target fpe. As far as "what Ruger had in mind," maybe not the the sales or PR department, but their engineers sure did. I've got no doubt they studied up on previous 10mm Magnum conversions done to the S&W 610s (which were L-frames) - by various 'smiths, like Hamilton Bowen and Gary Reeder - and anticipated that possibility here.
Otherwise, why go with such a large-frame wheelie when the GP's frame would've sufficed for handling maximum 10mm AUTO loads, and certainly any 40S&W loads? Except for weight, there's no downside to the strength of the larger frame.
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FrankenMauser
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Why?
Because it's easier and cheaper to run moon clips in the SRH.
No downside?
Yea... But there really isn't an up side for the consumer, either. It helps Ruger. Does nothing for the consumer.
Ruger doesn't build fantasies. They build firearms intended to fire SAAMI-spec cartridges -- not obscure wildcats or stupidly-overpressure handloads.
That's the same question 90% of the posters on this thread are wondering. And There is a huge downside to the strength of the larger frame. It looks and feels like a tank. If there were no downside to SRH sized guns every gun built would be that huge but alas they are not.
It was cheap & easy for S&W to engineer the cylinders of L-frame 610s for use with full moon clips. Why is it suddenly not cheap & easy for Ruger to do it on a GP-100 frame?
C'mon, dude, it ain't rocket science ....
Attached is a pic of a .357 GP-100 that was converted to 10mm AUTO by Clements Customs (not mine).
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Yep I agree. I have owned two Blackhawks and a 6" model 57 and try as I might I could never really take a shine to the round. Nothing wrong with it, it just didn't do anything the 44 mag couldn't do and do just a little better.
My bud just bought a Glock 10mm and I shot a couple of mags through it and it was nice but it wasn't the hand wrenching powerhouse I thought it was going to be. He bought it for Bear protection for when he goes trout fishing in Colorado. I never understood what it would do that the 44 mag Redhawk he has wouldn't do. I think he just wanted a new gun. Nuthin' wrong with that.
TruthTellers
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I doubt that competition shooting is the main reason people would buy this revolver or the reason Ruger is manufacturing it.