It depends what you want the gun for. I have a 9mm for shooting paper and steel plates for cheap. I dont see having anything else but 22LR as 'practical' for that. The price of $20 for 50 rounds sounds very reasonable for a gun I might use to put bullets into wildlife. Or a gun that I took to the club in a rotation that includes 45 LC and 44mag.I like the idea and that it's a real thing, but I don't know anyone who shoots 5.7x28 and it's pricey to boot. I'll admit it's cool but I don't know how well it will do unless we can get some inexpensive ammo for it, I mean the cheapest 50rd box I just looked up was $20. That's almost 357 Mag costs.
TruthTellers said:I see what Ruger is doing tho, they're going to offer a 5.7 pistol for hundreds less than the Five-Seven and that is going to open the 5.7 market up a lot. I just would rather see it done for 7.62x25 because I believe that's a better pistol caliber.
You're thinking of the 7.65×21mm Para/.30 Luger there zukiphile.Didn't Ruger offer a 7.62x25 in the 90s in a P series?
I don't hate this pistol, and I like the look of that thumb safety. I don't see the market for a full sized, ultra loud 22-ish pistol that costs a lot to shoot.
I've always wanted an FN FiveseveN, but at over $1000, it's too expensive for my taste.
.22 TCM is far more powerful in a handgun than the 5.7 is, but because it's not a sexy looking bullet and is only available in Filipino made 1911's, few are interested in it. There's also the unique look of the P90 and its 50 rd magazine, the movies and video games that feature the P90 that has led to it having a bit of a cult following.I too like my 22TCM, especially with the option of the extra 9mm conversion and availability of a bolt action rifle.
Time will tell, but what has stopped 5.7 from going anywhere in the civilian market has been FN's $1000 pistol and in the US the SBR laws preventing the P90 in its true configuration from being owned free of the registration hassle.If you are concerned about the price of a FiveseveN, wait until you find out that factory 5.7x28mm costs about 3x as much as factory 9x19mm.
I honestly find this an odd product for Ruger. They may sell a bunch of them based on the cool factor (as least for a while - and maybe that's what they are counting on), but something makes me think there will be a lot of low-round-count Ruger-57s sitting around in a few years.
And maybe I'm wrong altogether and this pistol is super-popular and drives down 5.7x28mm costs.
While the 22TCm may be better on paper, my experience with it left a lot to be desired. I had both the 5” 1911 and the rifle, neither of them were overly accurate. Given the sporadic nature of the issue, I’m fairly certain my issues stemmed from the Armscor ammo. One box would shoot with a nice grouping thG faired similar to my other pistols, another would be double that size. After 6 months of that, I gave up and sold them both..22 TCM is far more powerful in a handgun than the 5.7 is, but because it's not a sexy looking bullet and is only available in Filipino made 1911's, few are interested in it. There's also the unique look of the P90 and its 50 rd magazine, the movies and video games that feature the P90 that has led to it having a bit of a cult following.
So, while .22 TCM is better and has a lot more potential, it's a waste to bother with until the industry realizes its capabilities.
Good point on the ammo, I feel the same way with 5.7 as the Federal stuff is very meh and the FN stuff is pricey.While the 22TCm may be better on paper, my experience with it left a lot to be desired. I had both the 5” 1911 and the rifle, neither of them were overly accurate. Given the sporadic nature of the issue, I’m fairly certain my issues stemmed from the Armscor ammo. One box would shoot with a nice grouping thG faired similar to my other pistols, another would be double that size. After 6 months of that, I gave up and sold them both.
I love the concept of the 22TCM, but until someone else makes the ammo I wouldn’t touch it again. I’d much rather go with the 5.7 strictly for more consistent ammo.
If you want P90 mags, buy a P90. A 16 inch P90 is not as practical as the 10 inch barrel is, but that's and SBR and you can thank the 73rd Congress and Franklin D. Roosevelt for the NFA Act.I'm wondering if the delayed-blowback action would stand up to .38 super, 7.62x25, or 10mm.
Seems like everyone is excited about the possibility of a PC carbine in 5.7, but that doesn't seem interesting to me unless it takes P90 mags, and still not even then unless ammo comes down in price.