Ruger 22/45 is junk

Edteach, is this a new MkIII 22/45, or a "MkII" 22/45 like the ones in pictures #1 and #3-#6 in 9x19's first post?

(I put "MkII" in quotes because the gun is technically known simply as the 22/45, but Rugerphiles routinely call the old version the MkII 22/45 to differentiate it from the MkIII version with the new grips, mag disconnect, and LCI.)

I used to have a 4" HB MkII 22/45 just like the gun in picture #1, but I sold it because I never really warmed up to the slippery and cheap-feeling (IMHO) plastic grip, and the particular gun just didn't function reliably (it was sold with full disclosure). I now have a 6" MkII Standard that I like far better.
 
:p You wont find many on here who will agree with you.

Second the mag fits too tight and I have to literally hit the bottom of the mag to make it snap into place. When I push the mag button it does not fall free but rather bumps the mag out about 1/4 inch, and you have to grab the mag with a finger nail to bring it out. JUNK.
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That's because of the magazine disconnect, remove it and the mag will drop free and insert just like any other pistol.

Next the less than desirable design of the Mark 2 take down does not work well with a plastic frame. Taking this gun down and putting it back together can be very trying.
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I have had mine apart probably 50 times or more now and while it's harder than the average pistol I can break it down and put it back together in probably a minute flat.

The MK design has been out for decades, for every person like you that thinks its junk there are dozens of people who don't, I don't think Ruger will miss you too much.

My 22/45 is a tack driver, I hit 6" steel plates at 50 yards all day long standing offhand. The MK series pistols are easily the most reliable 22lr pistol out there in my opinion.
 
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I'll admit that disassembly of my Ruger Standard took a lot less time than reassembly, but it didn't hold a candle to doing the same to a Mauser C96 ('Broomhandle') cold. Yeah the Ruger is a little fiddly to put back together compared to some, but it could be a LOT worse.
 
My first handgun was the newly released Mk3 22/45 with the two piece LCI. It absolutely refused to feed anything 'hollowpoint', and as we all know the vast majority of 22 is that design. Ruger sent me a new bolt but of course it didn't fix the issue.

I sold it and got the older Mk2 22/45 that was utterly reliable. I simply got bored with it and sold that too.

I wish they had the SR22 back then, would have been a lot more fun.

That being said I picked up a Kadet kit for my CZ and have never had a jam in that gun. Never.
 
Mine would shoot right along side my High Standards from the bench from the first day. Now that it has a few mods it has become my favorite 22 pistol and I own a lot more to choose from.
 
I had problems with my 22/45 Lite, but I got the first generation model. Also, those problems have been solved and long with the mags now dropping free by a VQ trigger kit. It's a sweet shooting gun now, but I've had so many issues with .22 semi-auto pistols (and guns) that I doubt I will ever buy another one... with the exception maybe of a Browning Buckmark or a custom built VQ gun.

I will say this for my 22/45 Lite. It is darned accurate and everybody loves shooting it. I just took some time and money to get it there.
 
Mine must be a knock off then as I have 2 22/45's one with over 40 000 rounds through it with out replacing a part and never having something break.
Its reliable with a vast range of ammo, ejects mags with force and is accurate for what it is.
One of the best handguns made IMO.
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We also have a 22/45 in my family that has to have over 10,000 rounds through it with very minimal cleaning. Never a problem at all except the barrel leaded up a few years ago and I had to give it a very thorough cleaning at that time.

It does have a finicky fieldstrip procedure, but that's just a nitpick. (Actually fieldstrip is easy, reassembly is finicky)

I actually prefer the 22/45 to the MkII. I prefer the 1911/CZ75 like controls. The gun shoots great, has great sights and feels good in the hand.
 
That being said I picked up a Kadet kit for my CZ and have never had a jam in that gun. Never.
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That is my favorite 22 also. They've gotten really expensive unfortunately, but really great kit if you have a CZ-75.

Especially fun on alloy compact frame! :)
 
Mine isn't. Been shooting it for eight years with no issues. It's a pain to strip and reassemble is my only gripe.
 
It's an entry level pistol, not a target gun.
"...design of the Mark 2 take down..." Isn't designed to be stripped. Never has been. Personally think they're junk due to that, the crappy trigger and poor sights.
 
The only thing wrong with the mkIII pistols is they need a couple of inexpensive modifications. As mentioned, add the bushing to do away with the magazine disconnect, remove the loaded chamber indicator (it is responsible for most of the stoppages) and add a blank plate in its place if you want, add a volkquartsen sear to give a great trigger pull, add a volkquartsen trigger to set up overtravel. All of these are cheap except for the trigger.

Once you get it running, then you need lots of magazines and a McFadden Ultimate cliploader to save your thumbs.

I feel your pain as to disassembly, I don't need to clean it that often, so I usually get a utube video up just in case.

For lots of info, check out imfirecentral.com
Not just rugers, but any rimfire.
 
This isn't the first time I have heard someone complain about dissasembling and assembling them, I think they are a real pain in the rear but I have never heard them called junk before.
 
On my kid's pistol team, the rugars bind up more than the buckmarks.

Probably due to lack of cleaning because they are harder to reassemble, so they don't get the attention needed. But the fastest and most accurate kid shoots one. Hardly "junk"! But they are in a cost sensitive market, so refinement is not there like on a $1000 gun.
 
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I have the Mark III and worked with a 22/45 and yes the take down/re-assembly is NUTS. Take your time and practice and it does get easier. Do not tap the polymer parts with a plastic mallet when doing this as they might not take the stress, tap the metal upper instead. I have found that when something doesn't go the way it is suppose too, I need to either insert on eject the magazine. Specifically, if it is an operation that involves pressing the trigger, mag has to be inserted. When detaching the upper from the lower, mag needs to be ejected.
 
Mine is one of the older models and has had thousands of trouble-free rounds through it. I've only disassembled it a couple of times for cleaning, but did manage to get it back together using the manual without too much difficulty. It's accurate, reliable, digests any ammo I feed it, and with a price of $199, I feel like it was quite a bargain. Sorry that yours was junk.
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Well, it seems all this conversation has made no impression on Mr. Ed.
He's apparently repeating his diatribe in other forums, too.
Oh well.
I'll still keep mine, thanks.
 
Anyone who owns one knows this is just a bunch of crap. These are great, solid pistols. I have to "re-learn" the reassembly each time but wouldn't trade my 22/45.
 
The good thing about putting it back together the first time is that you usually struggle with it. This forces you to learn the proper sequence.

I take mine down just for the fun of putting back together these days.
 
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