Ron Paul just committed political suicide...

Ed Brown was convicted of armed robbery in the 60's, and pardoned by MA governor Michael Dukakis, allowing him to possess firearms.

He and his wife deliberately pulled off a postal money order scheme to hide income they'd have to pay taxes on. It was not a refusal in protest, it was a sneaky scam. They got caught.

He's threatened to kill any LEO who comes to arrest him.

He answers the phone by saying that Ed Brown is dead and he's a representative of god.

The townspeople are sick of this, sick of them, sick of the media, and want the police to end this nonsense now.

The police have shown admirable restraint in not wanting another Ruby Ridge, but they need to stop visitors from bringing them groceries yesterday. And then they need to use judicious, nonlethal force to subdue them, perhaps pepper gas or some other irritant. If Ed Brown comes out and tries to kill LEOs who have not opened fire, they need to respond with deadly force, even though they're trying to avoid that at all costs.

This is nonsense. They're a couple of cuckoo criminals, one who was a convicted armed robber. They're making responsible firearms owners and libertarians look very bad.

Enough.

And Ron Paul, by siding with a violent lawbreaker, has jumped the shark and shown himself to be a kook who has no place in the Oval Office, since the President must maintain the law of the land and uphold the Constitution in all his actions.
 
GoSlash, I live in the state and get the news every day.

Ed Brown is a convicted armed robber who was pardoned by Mike Dukakis in a typical Democrat reaction, one that let him possess firearms, since he wasn't a convicted felon anymore. He's not a NH native, he was a MA resident before and after being convicted for that armed robbery in Somerville, a community adjoining Boston.

He and his wife got caught in a postal money order scam...not a tax protest. They were sneaky about it, or tried to be, and got caught.

He's threatened to kill LEOs if they try to arrest him.

Enough is enough. The townspeople, who are typical REAL New Hampshire sorts who want privacy and hate this media attention on their town, want him out, too.
 
Thanks, I only knew some of the more recent developments.

"Apparently somebody feels very threatened by Dr. Paul."

Who is Dr. Paul, the Browns' psychiatrist?

John
 
Since that report came from the Associated Press (the State Propaganda machine) and since Ron Paul has chosen to support those people, I would trust Ron Paul over any leftist/statist/establishement media outlet.

Ron Paul still has my support. What's wrong with being a part of anti-tax crowd or even a milita group per se? Down with the IRS!

A very slanted report
 
Most of your media outlets are essentially slanted shaped propaganda machines. (even FOX, although they are more neoconartist than leftist)


I guess strict constructionist Ron Paul doesn't believe in the 16th amendment.
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neither does this strict constructionalist. It is an amendment passed by corrupt officials that amounts to theft. PERIOD. It should be, as Texas Congressman Bill Archer used to say, pulled up by the roots

One thing that can't be denied about Paul is that he speaks his mend and doesn't play politics which shows he's honest (unlike all those other clowns up there in Washington who worry so much about "committing political suicide" that all they know how to do is chant cheap bumper stickers slogans and kiss up to voters)
 
:rolleyes:

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One thing that can't be denied about Paul is that he speaks his mend and doesn't play politics which shows he's honest
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And fast approaching Koo-Koonich in "WTF did he just say?!" nutcase-ness.
 
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I gather you are satisfied with the way things are (being forced to pay 20-60% of the fruit of your labor to the government) and anybody who opposes it must be wearing a tin foil hat.

Boy did you pick the wrong website to post on, being pro 2cond amendment is dangerously extreme these days and is considereddangerous by a lot of folks out there.

Better get out of here, somebody might spot you here and label you a "milita wacko"


Let's stop shooting our own wounded and/or taking the enemies propaganda at face value. THAT"S WHY WE AS CONSERVATIVES DON"T EVER GET ANYWHERE, WE ARE SO BUSY SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER
 
Uh...no. I think perhaps you picked the wrong website?

I'm pro-2A, but I'm also a law-abiding citizen who believes that convicted felons shouldn't own firearms, and that people who engage in deliberate lawbreaking financial scams need to answer to the law. I also think that anyone who threatens to kill LEOs is a dangerous kook and needs to be dealt with.

Apparently, you don't.

And I only see one "militia wacko" here. Me, I go to work every day, vote for things I want or vote against things I don't want, keep guns locked up, and lead a normal life. So do most gun owners. You're coming off as the extremist here.
 
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Apparently, you take media propaganda (a media that hates conservatism) at face value and jump to negative conclusions and immediatly start shooting our own wounded.

BTW, just a though, how many people in here have we heard say "I'll never give my guns to the government, they can have it when they pry them from my cold dead fingers" or words to that effect. What do you think this implys, peppering non-leos with spitballs according to "the law"?
 
What part of "Ed Brown is a convicted former armed robber who is holed up after being caught at a financial scam, threatening to kill LEOs" is unclear to you?

BTW, legal scholars have dismissed his rantings in long, comprensive proofs that every objection they've made is uninformed and mistaken drivel.

The guy also wears a "constitution rangers" badge and has declared that that puts him above any state or federal law. Yay for making your own rules!

That the kind you want on your side? :barf:
 
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you are jumping to conclusions. That's what I'm talking about.

"Ed Brown is a convicted former armed robber who is holed up after being caught at a financial scam, threatening to kill LEOs" is unclear to you?
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the fact that that's all I'm hearing. Is it all true? Is it the whole truth? Even if it is, is this what Paul supports? Who is worse, them or the government that is trying to arrest them? (maybe like Jessie James vs. the Government subsidised RailRoads, which was worse? The latter created the former)


The guy also wears a "constitution rangers" badge and has declared that that puts him above any state or federal law. Yay for making your own rules!
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No, that's for saying the Founding Fathers and the Original Intent of the Constitution makes the rules. Paul is in good company. Madison, Jefferson, Calhoun etc. all were for nullifying federal law that violated the liberty of people. Stay the course, don't let the media upset you with lies and half-truths
 
I like how Paul compares the Browns (who Paul considers to be "heros") to Ghandi and Dr. King. The Browns are not heros; they are idiots who are going to jail. The Browns certainly can't be compared to Ghandi and Dr. King. I don't recall Ghandi and/or Dr. King threatening to kill law enforcement officers, especially over the issue of non-payment of taxes. But hey, at least we now know that Paul supports those who won't pay thier taxes, and who threaten to kill law enforcement officers.

Anyway, regardless of whether you think Paul is looney, it is obvious that he desperately needs an experienced campaign manager; that interview (and Paul's responses to the questions) won't help Paul obtain the nomination; to the contrary, it makes him look.....well, looney.
 
Paul is answering a general question and broadening the question to talk about the IRS system as a whole. It sounded like he wasn't even 100% sure who the Browns were, but understands on a general level that they are resisting the IRS as many people have done in the past. I don't know, that but that is a possibility.

Also, what does the Brown's past have to do with what is going on now. The man was pardoned, the man, regardless of his record has the RTKBA under the Constitution. The media is throwing that in to cloud the issue.

The immediate issue is that of them resisting the IRS.

I don't think this means Paul is for killing LEOs per se or armed robbery or anything of the sort.

BTW, what do y'all think our New England neighbors (ancestors for some of y'all) were doing at Lexington and Concord when they blocked an army of LEOs on their way to seize their arsenal according to "the law"?

Alos, some of those men did some things that many of their comrades in arms would not have approved of such as destroying property, tar and feathering officials needlessly, and other such hasty action (I think Geo. Washington himself disapproved of the Boston Tea Party), but nevertheless all of these men stuck together and fought together when it came right down to it. Let's stop shooting our own wounded. Let's stop coming down on a friend whenever they seem to be "too close to a 'fringe group'"
 
The only thing I don't like about Ron Paul is that I find his music very annoying. The monotonic vocals and pounding overemphasized bass comes across as brainless and tacky.
 
Let's stop coming down on a friend whenever they seem to be "too close to a 'fringe group'"
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Law and reason and civilized behavior need to play a role.

In this, Ed Brown had his chance to appear in court and plead his case. He chose not to, and instead holed up like a common criminal. His choice.

So if Ed Brown comes out and starts shooting at LEOs who come to arrest him as he's threatened to, I'd be on the side of the police sniper who has to pull the trigger.

Because there's limits to how you act in a society of laws.
 
I say again:

what do y'all think our New England neighbors (ancestors for some of y'all) were doing at Lexington and Concord when they blocked an army of LEOs on their way to seize their arsenal according to "the law"?
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I'm not saying what the Browns are doing is wise or even necessarily right (I'm not saying they are necessarily wrong either), but let's keep in mind who the common enemy is. It certainly isn't Ron Paul.

This is why the Associated Press and other media outlets print slanted sensationalized reports such as this, to scare people like you away from Ron Paul who support true conservative values.
 
He and his wife deliberately pulled off a postal money order scheme to hide income they'd have to pay taxes on.
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Get this - if you buy $10,000 worth of money orders, you're fine. If you buy $9,990 worth, you might be a criminal, depending on how frisky the prosecutor feels about it.

It's a big load of bull. Banking should be private, and that's one of the most serious pieces of damage that the IRS has done to the security of our papers and effects.
 
Didn't we just go through all this nonsense when he made his comments in the second debate that Giuliani went into a hissy fit over ?

Some folks here would have you believe that Ron Paul simultaneously 1) has no chance because nobody knows him, and 2) has just undermined his chances with the masses because of an unpopular comment (the same masses that supposedly don't exist).

Ron Paul is the best qualified for the job, in my opinion. Just because he made a comment that might offend the sensibilities of some of the mainstream vote-who-the-media-tells-us-to-vote-for-folks doesn't change anything. I expect a man of conviction and courage to say unpopular things now and then. Otherwise, you just have a tell-them-what-they-want-to-hear Kerry wannabe.
 
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