Remington or Winchester

My late father was a old time collector and he wouldn't think of buying a gun that wore a plastic stock no matter how well it shot. He always said that a wood stock gave the gun character, told a story and that's what made it a collectable work of art. Anything wearing plastic wasn't allowed in his vault. When I brough home my first AR, he first said I thought I taught you better than that, then he told me that I better find a place for it to sleep because it didn't belong with the others. That thing was always the red headed step child along with my orphaned .300 Wby Mag.

When he passed, I felt like my world had crashed but I can still hear him whenever I pick up one of those guns in the vault. I have his Model 70 Supergrade 30'06 that I sighted in for him, but that's the way it will always be, just sighted in for him and talking to me every time I lay my hands on it. Funny, my BSA 30'06 is a gun I permanantly borrowed from him and when I hunt with it, its like I'm hunting with him still. The same can be said for the Belgian A5's and countless others. I'll probably never shoot 1/10th of what he left me but those guns, the break, shuck, or the song of the action shutting and the smells of oil and solvent do tell a story, but its mine and his and one that I'll hopefully pass on to my boys.
 
Remington 700

I simply can't get a Winchester 70 inside of a price point that doesn't allow me to buy a better rifle from another maker. In short, I think the Win 70s are currently too expensive for what you get in terms of features and accuracy.
This is not to say that they aren't beautiful rifles, or that that they aren't overall nice rifles, it's simply that there are way too many better priced competitors.
 
poodleshooter

If your looking for a Controlled Feed Action type rifle, the only competiton the Winchester Model 70 would have to be CZ, Ruger, and Kimber.
They all cost about the same.
 
Poodleshooter,

Last I checked the Winchester 70's were selling $50-$100 less than a 700 CDL. The Remington is not a bad gun, but for less money why not get a gun with CRF. Not to mention that current production Winchesters have proven to be more accurate and better finished than current production Remingtons.

Nothing against Remingtons, I've owned and liked them for nearly 40 years, but in 2011 the Winchester is the far better value. Just a few years ago I'd have agreed with you.
 
Last I checked the Winchester 70's were selling $50-$100 less than a 700 CDL.
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you sure about that? I just got the recent Winchester 2011 catalog and their prices have gone up about 35-50% from last year.
 
After getting a modern model 70...

After getting a modern model 70, its always neat to get a pre 64. I set out in the same pursuit of the OP and had my heart set on a featherweight deluxe 270 until I read about the pre 64s and started buying them instead. Shooter grade ones are still available for a fair price. Here are some of my pre 64s: top 1948 270 standard, next 1949 270 std, third 1956 model 70 featherweight 243 and the bottom gun is a 1956 model 88 in 243.
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For me this would be an easy choice. My five pretty rifles are all Winchester with wood stocks. .264, .270, 30-06, ..375 H&H and the mandatory 30-30.

My all weather ( stainless & plastic) are a Ruger .300 20 inch. and a Tikka in 25-06

Covers everything I want to shoot.

TGR
 
One thing I liked about those old rifles: They (Winchester, Remington, etc.) equipped their rifles with open sights-whether they needed them or not. Don't see irons on bolt-action rifles from the factory much anymore. More's the pity, I say.
 
I have a Remington 700pss and love it, but it is far from a stock rifle. That being said I would go for either if they are used/older(remington 10-20yrs+ Winchester only a pre 64) but then again that's just me. I like older mechanical things cars, guns etc. Simple, robust, less electronics. Also as far as 308 or 30-06 that's a hard question for me, mainly because I reload. I originally got the 308 and thought that would be the end of it but now I'm looking for a 30-06 700 to match my 308(yeah it's a sickness haha) so I'd say both.
 
Myself if I were in the market for a new rifle right now I would buy a Savage. If I were looking to buy used an older Model 70. I have herd Remington's quality control has not been good lately.
 
I'd buy whichever fits me best, or could most easily be "tweaked" for best fit. The actual difference among most major brands is mostly cosmetic...
 
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