Recommend a handy woods rifle.

I would look at the Winchester M88 lever gun.

There are lots of them out there with a wide price range and they are available in a multitude of calibers.

I used one for a few years in 308 Win and a buddy hunted south Texas brush country with a 243 Win.

Good solid guns, not real heavy and accurate.

PS: I have three Nikon scopes and 4 Leupold scopes. They are all good and I can't tell the difference in clarity.
 
QUOTE: "...I'm looking for either a bolt action or a single shot..."

Well, crap. I guess that rules out the "perfect" choice: a Winchester Model 94, chambered in .30-30. :)
 
It really shouldn't be such an issue; there's not a significant difference in size or weight between the scopes anyway. Get what you want for your style of hunting or preference.
 
The "fact" is that he got a package that is adequately suited for his intended use. If he arrives at a point where he has more funds and wants to upgrade his scope, he can. Talking about factory irons when he bought a model 7 CDL is a sign of someone not paying attention.
 
agtman said:
Because you think you know what you're talking about, but you don't. :rolleyes: First sign of a newbie hunter. No shame there, dudenal, we were all "babes in the woods" once ;) , but you're at overkill on the magnification choice.



Apparently you're not interested in learning - second sign of a rookie.



Ignoring facts is yet another sign of a rookie. Don't go Chi-Com cheap on the optic. You should be paying more for the scope than for the rifle.

Most rifles - to include even some loosey-goosey production rifles coming out of the box - will shoot fairly well with their standard irons. Topping them with sub-par scopes makes them shoot worse, as it saddles the rifle with what are really the scope's issues. :rolleyes:
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Apparently you didn't read. I've been hunting for 20 years. Acting like a know-it-all doesn't really help anyone either. Forming opinions about people you know nothing about makes YOU look ignorant.

And Nikon scopes are far from "chi com" or "sub par". Did you even read anything or are you so full of it that you don't think you need to?
 
Apparently you didn't read. I've been hunting for 20 years. Acting like a know-it-all doesn't really help anyone either. Forming opinions about people you know nothing about makes YOU look ignorant. And Nikon scopes are far from "chi com" or "sub par". Did you even read anything or are you so full of it that you don't think you need to?
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Okay, dudenal, ...

Look, I'm sure you've got a nice rifle, ... and obviously you've convinced yourself you've chosen a non-junk scope (if you say so :rolleyes: ).

So if that particular set-up gives you the warm-n-fuzzes in the woods, well, that's just chuckle-licious.

Happy hunting. :cool:
 
The prices of rifle scopes fairly accurately reflect the quality of rifle scopes. A $100 scope is worth - well, about $100. Many purchasers learn the hard way. :rolleyes: I've been hunting about 60 years, but only about 50 years with scoped center-fire rifles in 6 or 7 states.
 
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agtman said:
Okay, dudenal, ...

Look, I'm sure you've got a nice rifle, ... and obviously you've convinced yourself you've chosen a non-junk scope (if you say so :rolleyes: ).

So if that particular set-up gives you the warm-n-fuzzes in the woods, well, that's just chuckle-licious.

Happy hunting. :cool:
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Then why the need to make your first post? This one would have been just fine to begin with.
 
lefteye said:
The prices of rifle scopes fairly accurately reflect the quality of rifle scopes. A $100 scope is worth - well, about $100. Many purchasers learn the hard way. :rolleyes: I've been hunting about 60 years, but only about 50 years with scoped center-fire rifles in 6 or 7 states.
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I guess I'll be putting that theory to the test. Luckily Nikon has a good warranty policy.
 
How are you going to test "that theory" with one scope? Why do scope prices range from under $100 to several thousand dollars? A warranty typically covers defects - not the value of the product!
 
lefteye said:
How are you going to test "that theory" with one scope? Why do scope prices range from under $100 to several thousand dollars? A warranty typically covers defects - not the value of the product!
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If it has problems or fails during use, I'll send it back. I don't care about the value of the scope because I bought it to use, not to resell.
 
OK - How are you going to test the quality of any scope without comparison to other scopes? If you don't care about value you can't care about quality! Do you truly believe a $100 scope is as good as a $400 scope or a $5,000 scope. Your scope may serve your purpose but it isn't even close to the quality of your rifle.
 
lefteye said:
OK - How are you going to test the quality of any scope without comparison to other scopes? If you don't care about value you can't care about quality! Do you truly believe a $100 scope is as good as a $400 scope or a $5,000 scope. Your scope may serve your purpose but it isn't even close to the quality of your rifle.
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I have a lot of other scopes. I'll compare it to them.
 
Why is everyone getting g so but hurt about a gun scope combo you won't be hunting with hay if he likes it then good if you don't then don't go out and buy it. I am also amazed at how so meany think you need a scope as or more expensive then your rifle to kill deer I mean how meany actually kill deer past the ability of a $100 scope I Shure never had any problems with Nikon optics if you do then don't buy them
 
Who wrote that he needed a scope that cost more than his rifle?
Who criticized Nikon scopes generally?

If you read the thread you should know the focus is on (1) the quality of a $100 scope being put on a $700+ rifle, and (2) using a 4-12 power scope for hunting deer from a ladder tree stand in woods with a maximum shot range of 150 yards.
 
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